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<blockquote data-quote="flyguy1" data-source="post: 1878295" data-attributes="member: 92595"><p>While I happen to prefer .357 SIG to any of these because at the time I was getting into pistol shooting all the hot shot guys (Secret Service, FBI HRT, were using SIG 229s in that caliber, since it duplicated the ballistics of the 125gr JHP .357 Magnum most associated with one-shot stops, and also was able to shoot through auto glass and car doors), no handgun bullet "puts them down" reliably unless a brain or spinal cord hit occurs. Think of the double lung shot on deer that ran 100 yards after being hit with multiples of energy more than any handgun bullet. I know all internet deer are DRT but IRL not so.</p><p></p><p>Having said this, and hate to be so politically incorrect, but feel the move to less powerful cartridges (including the FBI's move away from .357 SIG) was driven by two things: men who didn't grow up shooting as the previous boomer generation did, who had been shooting 12 gauges since they were 12 years old, and, two, the recruitment of women with likely no shooting experience and smaller hands. FBI would never admit this as it would be political suicide. Rather just tout the development of new bullet technologies. If new bullets are deadlier in 9mm, as someone else already stated, wouldn't they be deadlier still in a higher caliber? As C.S. Lewis famously said, "Why <em>did</em> they stop teaching logic in these schools?" I was associated with several higher up LEO types, including FBI, who admitted this privately and would rather have had a .357 SIG or even a .45ACP.</p><p></p><p>So, once again, politics trumps reality. Twitter I'm sure would ban me for posting this. I'm probably safe on this newsgroup though. If not, so long, and enjoy the next 10 1/2 years before the world comes to an end because of climate change. Wait, isn't that based on another model? :>)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="flyguy1, post: 1878295, member: 92595"] While I happen to prefer .357 SIG to any of these because at the time I was getting into pistol shooting all the hot shot guys (Secret Service, FBI HRT, were using SIG 229s in that caliber, since it duplicated the ballistics of the 125gr JHP .357 Magnum most associated with one-shot stops, and also was able to shoot through auto glass and car doors), no handgun bullet "puts them down" reliably unless a brain or spinal cord hit occurs. Think of the double lung shot on deer that ran 100 yards after being hit with multiples of energy more than any handgun bullet. I know all internet deer are DRT but IRL not so. Having said this, and hate to be so politically incorrect, but feel the move to less powerful cartridges (including the FBI's move away from .357 SIG) was driven by two things: men who didn't grow up shooting as the previous boomer generation did, who had been shooting 12 gauges since they were 12 years old, and, two, the recruitment of women with likely no shooting experience and smaller hands. FBI would never admit this as it would be political suicide. Rather just tout the development of new bullet technologies. If new bullets are deadlier in 9mm, as someone else already stated, wouldn't they be deadlier still in a higher caliber? As C.S. Lewis famously said, "Why [I]did[/I] they stop teaching logic in these schools?" I was associated with several higher up LEO types, including FBI, who admitted this privately and would rather have had a .357 SIG or even a .45ACP. So, once again, politics trumps reality. Twitter I'm sure would ban me for posting this. I'm probably safe on this newsgroup though. If not, so long, and enjoy the next 10 1/2 years before the world comes to an end because of climate change. Wait, isn't that based on another model? :>) [/QUOTE]
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