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Why do some rifles shoot better dirty?
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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 237027" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>To clean or not to clean has always been a hot debate so this is just my</p><p>opinion based on my experance.</p><p></p><p>A fouled or seasoned barrel is normaly more consistant from group to group</p><p>but not the size of the groups.</p><p></p><p>A clean barrel is normaly more accurate.</p><p></p><p>If you clean a barrel every round it will be very accurate if your loads are worked</p><p>up for this type of cleaning.</p><p></p><p>If you want to shoot a fouled barrel then work up your loads with the barrel</p><p>fouled with at least 10 rounds fired through the barrel for best results.</p><p></p><p>If you have noticed after a good cleaning the first shot hardly ever goes the same</p><p>place as the next 3 or 4 shots.The reason is the oil / solvent is not completly</p><p>removed and velocity is often slightly higher.</p><p></p><p>Under most conditions a barrel will be fouled to some degree because multiple shots</p><p>are required like in a match or just working up loads and grouping.Also when hunting</p><p>you cant allways clean between shots.</p><p></p><p>When I work up loads I allways clean, shoot 1 fouling shot and then shoot 3 to 5</p><p>shots for group,velocity,sd and es. This way I have a good consistant load for the </p><p>intended use.</p><p></p><p>I agree with Willis 46 that most factory barrels shoot better fouled and custom barrels</p><p>shoot better clean but there are allways exceptions.</p><p></p><p>The quality of the barrel,the type of powder and the velocity of the bullet all contribute</p><p>to the amount and speed that a barrel fouls so cleaning cycles can vary.</p><p></p><p>Which ever way you you elect to clean( Frequent or not ) be consistant .</p><p></p><p>The best groups I have ever shot have been with the ,clean and shoot one shot and clean</p><p>before the next shot. But this is impractical so I use the method above so I have 4 or 5</p><p>accurate shots without cleaning.</p><p></p><p>This works for me and my type of shooting.</p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 237027, member: 2736"] To clean or not to clean has always been a hot debate so this is just my opinion based on my experance. A fouled or seasoned barrel is normaly more consistant from group to group but not the size of the groups. A clean barrel is normaly more accurate. If you clean a barrel every round it will be very accurate if your loads are worked up for this type of cleaning. If you want to shoot a fouled barrel then work up your loads with the barrel fouled with at least 10 rounds fired through the barrel for best results. If you have noticed after a good cleaning the first shot hardly ever goes the same place as the next 3 or 4 shots.The reason is the oil / solvent is not completly removed and velocity is often slightly higher. Under most conditions a barrel will be fouled to some degree because multiple shots are required like in a match or just working up loads and grouping.Also when hunting you cant allways clean between shots. When I work up loads I allways clean, shoot 1 fouling shot and then shoot 3 to 5 shots for group,velocity,sd and es. This way I have a good consistant load for the intended use. I agree with Willis 46 that most factory barrels shoot better fouled and custom barrels shoot better clean but there are allways exceptions. The quality of the barrel,the type of powder and the velocity of the bullet all contribute to the amount and speed that a barrel fouls so cleaning cycles can vary. Which ever way you you elect to clean( Frequent or not ) be consistant . The best groups I have ever shot have been with the ,clean and shoot one shot and clean before the next shot. But this is impractical so I use the method above so I have 4 or 5 accurate shots without cleaning. This works for me and my type of shooting. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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