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<blockquote data-quote="DRock" data-source="post: 1897129" data-attributes="member: 109187"><p>This was my first big game animal with a berger 168gr hybrid hunter. This is the exit hole. Definitely killed the pronghorn but I lost the meat on the front half of this goat. He ran about 50-70 yards after the hit and piled up. Shot was right at 300 yards. I have mixed feelings about Bergers. They shoot awesome and definitely kill game. My concern is that I have made a poor shot a time or two and on something larger than a speed goat if I do not get an exit wound, I really want a blood trail. We are all chasing that Unicorn, right? A rifle that shoots over 3000fps with long barrel life and light recoil? An all purpose bullet that works equally well at 800 yards as at 100? I personally dont feel the Berger is an all-purpose bullet. I feel more comfortable with it at longer ranges. I think the design of the Federal Terminal Ascent (Formerly Edge TLR) is a better all round design. I killed a large mulie, an Oryx, and a prongorn with the TLR last fall and it performed flawless (longest shot was 400 yards- closest was 175 yards). I shot very good groups with it out to 800 yards in my 280 Ackley. Honestly, I think what shoots best in your rifle and gives you great confidence is more important than the actual bullet. But-- it gives me more confidence when I know I have a tough bullet that will do the job and it shoots great from my rifle. And when we talk about accuracy- technically Bergers are Match bullets and print very tight groups. Something like the Federal Terminal Ascent being bonded it will be inherently less accurate due to the design being around terminal performance not just accuracy. However- I feel I can accept a bullet for hunting that shoots MOA when another can give me 1/2 MOA but may not be as well suited for game. My 2 cents but this was a great discussion and I have no problem with anyone hunting with Bergers. I think there are enough case studies just in this thread that proves they are a legitimate hunting bullet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DRock, post: 1897129, member: 109187"] This was my first big game animal with a berger 168gr hybrid hunter. This is the exit hole. Definitely killed the pronghorn but I lost the meat on the front half of this goat. He ran about 50-70 yards after the hit and piled up. Shot was right at 300 yards. I have mixed feelings about Bergers. They shoot awesome and definitely kill game. My concern is that I have made a poor shot a time or two and on something larger than a speed goat if I do not get an exit wound, I really want a blood trail. We are all chasing that Unicorn, right? A rifle that shoots over 3000fps with long barrel life and light recoil? An all purpose bullet that works equally well at 800 yards as at 100? I personally dont feel the Berger is an all-purpose bullet. I feel more comfortable with it at longer ranges. I think the design of the Federal Terminal Ascent (Formerly Edge TLR) is a better all round design. I killed a large mulie, an Oryx, and a prongorn with the TLR last fall and it performed flawless (longest shot was 400 yards- closest was 175 yards). I shot very good groups with it out to 800 yards in my 280 Ackley. Honestly, I think what shoots best in your rifle and gives you great confidence is more important than the actual bullet. But-- it gives me more confidence when I know I have a tough bullet that will do the job and it shoots great from my rifle. And when we talk about accuracy- technically Bergers are Match bullets and print very tight groups. Something like the Federal Terminal Ascent being bonded it will be inherently less accurate due to the design being around terminal performance not just accuracy. However- I feel I can accept a bullet for hunting that shoots MOA when another can give me 1/2 MOA but may not be as well suited for game. My 2 cents but this was a great discussion and I have no problem with anyone hunting with Bergers. I think there are enough case studies just in this thread that proves they are a legitimate hunting bullet. [/QUOTE]
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