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Which rings.??
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<blockquote data-quote="Ian M" data-source="post: 15935" data-attributes="member: 25"><p>Don't matter if the ring set has one or two dovetails, the frigging dovetail is a weak link - just look at how much metal is left after they cut the dovetail. I was in Redfield's factory (the originator of this design) and they told me that the biggest problem that they had was the dovetails shearing off or bending over. </p><p>Plus it is metal on metal contact that results in removal of metal when the dovetail is turned 90 degrees, regardless of how much grease is put on the surfaces. Do that a few times and they will loosen, will eventually spin 360 degrees and they will wobble sideways. I baby my stuff as much as possible but more than once I have seen metal strips inside the dovetail cuts after removing a set of rings - that is crap. And I have the nifty Leupold ring-wrench to install and remove the rings with. </p><p>Badgers and MK4 might be heavier and butt-*** ugly but they are the simplest and strongest rings for the money (personally I think they look great, guess they grow on a person).</p><p>I have been told by guys who were there that the Marine armorers welded the bottom section of the Redfield style rings to the bases in Vietnam, because they did not hold.</p><p>Someone at Leupold is full of **** if they said that the dual dovetails are as strong as the MK4, just not so. Maybe some suit said that, I doubt that anyone who uses both would ever make that statement. I have seen the dovetails bend over, that DOES NOT happen with Badgers or MK4's.</p><p>As for problems with Badgers, if there were any Marty Bordson would fix whatever in a heartbeat, that is how he operates.</p><p>Let's face it, most shooters could use 19 dollar aluminum Tasco rings for all the shooting and abuse they give their scopes <img src="http://images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ian M, post: 15935, member: 25"] Don't matter if the ring set has one or two dovetails, the frigging dovetail is a weak link - just look at how much metal is left after they cut the dovetail. I was in Redfield's factory (the originator of this design) and they told me that the biggest problem that they had was the dovetails shearing off or bending over. Plus it is metal on metal contact that results in removal of metal when the dovetail is turned 90 degrees, regardless of how much grease is put on the surfaces. Do that a few times and they will loosen, will eventually spin 360 degrees and they will wobble sideways. I baby my stuff as much as possible but more than once I have seen metal strips inside the dovetail cuts after removing a set of rings - that is crap. And I have the nifty Leupold ring-wrench to install and remove the rings with. Badgers and MK4 might be heavier and butt-*** ugly but they are the simplest and strongest rings for the money (personally I think they look great, guess they grow on a person). I have been told by guys who were there that the Marine armorers welded the bottom section of the Redfield style rings to the bases in Vietnam, because they did not hold. Someone at Leupold is full of **** if they said that the dual dovetails are as strong as the MK4, just not so. Maybe some suit said that, I doubt that anyone who uses both would ever make that statement. I have seen the dovetails bend over, that DOES NOT happen with Badgers or MK4's. As for problems with Badgers, if there were any Marty Bordson would fix whatever in a heartbeat, that is how he operates. Let's face it, most shooters could use 19 dollar aluminum Tasco rings for all the shooting and abuse they give their scopes [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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