which rifle? Savage OR Remington.

Discussion in 'Varmint Hunting' started by aglass1987, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. aglass1987

    aglass1987 Active Member

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    Im thinking about getting another varmint/predator rifle. Its gonna be 243 caliber. My buddy has a Savage model 10 Predator and that rifle is ACCURATE and I really like the predator series. But I was thinking about getting a Rem SPS Varmint with a 26" barrel. I hear different wishy washy stories about both brands. The savage only has a 22" barrel though. I got some new land to hunt this year and the longest shot is about 625 yds. I have always heard that a longer barrel was better for longer range. Would the 22" barrel be fine for that distance? Which rifle would yall recommend???
     
  2. Bitman

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    I have the Remington 700 VSSF II, in .204, and love the gun.
    I wanted something in a .243 for longer shoots on windy days.
    I looked at both rifles you have and others, but just couldn't pull the trigger on any of them. There was just something about each of them that I didn't like. I spent the extra money and bought the Cooper Montana Varminter in .243. It's a beautiful rifle, and will do everything I need it to do. I know it will shoot out of the box, and it'll retain it's value. Just my opinion.
     

  3. cabelas90

    cabelas90 Well-Known Member

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    I have a reminton sps vamenter in 204 and i love the gun i also have a freind that has a savege preditor in 22250 and hes not happy with it. my remington will shoot .372 or less all day long i would go with the remmington it will do the jod just fine!
     
  4. JEREMY logan

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    I don't own either one of the guns in that caliber .However I do own a remington 300 ultra . I don't want to affend anyone who owns a savage but they will always be a savage. I say remington everytime,just my opinion.:D
     
  5. 338 LEGEND

    338 LEGEND Well-Known Member

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    Remington all the way.
     
  6. geargrinder

    geargrinder Well-Known Member

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    Savage, no doubt about it.

    Easy to work on yourself. Barrel swaps are easy. Even the bolt face can be swapped out in a couple minutes. You can be shooting 223 and 10 minutes later be slinging 338 Edge out of the same action.

    The trigger spring can be replaced and the trigger can be adjusted easily.

    The plastic stock is junk, but usually shoots pretty well due to the dual pillars.

    Yes, I have both. But I prefer my Savages by a large margin.
     
  7. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Check this out. Savage Arms 12 Series Varmint Model 12FV It's not camoflauged, but it is a 26" bbl. It will shoot out of the box with good ammo. My cousin shoots one in 308 and I have a Savage 12 Low Pro. Both very accurate rifles w/ factory barrels. IMO

    Tank
     
  8. geargrinder

    geargrinder Well-Known Member

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    I have the stainless version in 300win. Well, I did. Sold the barrel and put a 26" Hart chambered in 300wsm. Great gun. Super accurate.
     
  9. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    I had my Mod 12 rechambered to 300WSM. I have finally found a load for 208grn A-Max. It shooting under a 1/2MOA at a 100yrds with factory barrel. I had a muzzle break put on it. It is my field gun. I really like the 300WSM. My next project is going to go be a 243, 243AI or 260, 260AI or a 338 Win Mag AI. I can dies from RCBS for that on. Maybe go the expense of custom redding dies.

    Tank
     
  10. Bear2

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    I have several Remy 700s and love them all. They are great shooters. My last was a 700 SPS Stainless in 243. I bought a couple boxes of Win/SuperX 100 gr factory shells to get cases for reloading, as BPS did not have new unprimed cases.
    First group of three shots, with an out of the box Remy and factory cartridges - 5/8". My handloads top that. All of my 700s including a 338 will print under an inch., at 100 yards.
    Duane
     
  11. bowhunthard

    bowhunthard Well-Known Member

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    Although each will have a different opinion, I would recommend Savage. I have both, and I like both. If it was before Remington made the X-Mark Pro trigger, I might have recommended Remington. The X-Mark Pro on my VTR only goes down to 5 lbs., any lower than that and the safety will make it slam-fire. The Savage AccuTrigger is the best factory trigger on the market. So unless you are going to replace the trigger... Both of these companies use injection molded stocks on these two rifles. The only difference is that the Savage is free-floated, which is a big plus. I tried free-floating the stock on my VTR (same stock as on the SPS) and it was internally warped, so the whole left side of the stock was contacting the barrel. So again, unless you are going to replace the stock... LOL.

    I all seriousness, go with the Savage. I love my Remingtons, and will continue to do so, but as of right now, I don't think I'd buy another Remmy unless I was prepared to upgrade it or build on it. Their QC has started to take a nose dive too.

    I recently bought a Remington VTR, and I love the rifle. But I had to replace the stock (McMillan lol), and the trigger replacement is pending for a Rifle Basix. Other than that, I love it. Here's a link to the review of my Rem VTR: Remington model 700 VTR.

    Here is a review for my Savage 12LRPV also: Savage model 12 long range precision

    Good luck, let us know how you decide.
     
  12. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Hey bow,

    This is what you wrote, " The 178 gr. A-MAXs were loaded to a COL of 2.882” and a jump of 0.076" to the rifling."

    Is that a comparetor length or OAL. That seems awfully long for a .308 with the comparetor. Just curious?

    Thanks,
    Tank
     
  13. RemingtonMagnum

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    remington no question about it
     
  14. bowhunthard

    bowhunthard Well-Known Member

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    COL is overall length without the bullet comparator. I may have slipped up, but I usually list the bullet comparator measurement as BC COL.

    How's your 250 shootin'?

    Enjoy.