Which primers? powder?

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by cheddar, Aug 20, 2009.

  1. cheddar

    cheddar Active Member

    Messages:
    28
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Hey guys. I have been looking but not much info on .223. I will be starting reloading but would like to start looking for primers and powder. I know nothing about either so it makes it tough to read without some help.

    What primers fit and work well with a .223 bolt gun? I know some of it may be personal preference and dependant on loads, but there has to one to STAY AWAY from. Same questions goes for powder. I've seen people refer to varget and a bunch of crazy stuff like h54138 or something. What the heck is that? Help me out here guys! Thanks!
     
  2. johnnyk

    johnnyk Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,731
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2001
    Primers will be Small Rifle. I have only used Rem 6.5 primers and for powders I used Varget with 69gn Nosler Competitions (.7-.9") and H4895 with 69gn Sierra MatchKings (.3's). I shot the 55gn Nosler Ballistic Tip ahead of W748 with great accuracy(.1-.2's). I also tried BLC(2) with the 69gn SMK; accuracy ran .3's.
    As for suitable powders look at Reloader's Nest - a reloaders resource and you can get a good idea of what everyone uses. There's about 46 different powders listed, so sift through and see what ya like. Check out the websites for the gunpowder companies and they have reloading data also.
    Hope this helps. JohnnyK.
     

  3. winmagman

    winmagman Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,379
    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2003
    cheddar,

    Here's some reading material for you, there's enough there to last a while :Dtable 3
     
  4. boomtube

    boomtube Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,595
    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2007
    "but there has to one to STAY AWAY from."

    Why? Actually, IF that were so, the makers would have long since disappeared.

    Well....223? Okay, stay away from magnum large rifle caps and Bullseye powder! ;)
     
  5. cheddar

    cheddar Active Member

    Messages:
    28
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    good point boomtube!
     
  6. Winchester 69

    Winchester 69 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    430
    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2007
    The dunces at Remington have redone their website and eliminated the warning, but here it is:

    "Regarding 6 1/2 primers, Midway has this under Remington 6 1/2 primers.
    This 6-1/2 Small Rifle primer is primarily designed for use in the 22 Hornet."
     
  7. DreamMaker

    DreamMaker Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    45
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2009
    Winmagman - don't know what cheddar thinks, but I found the link you posted a great source for information.
     
  8. DreamMaker

    DreamMaker Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    45
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2009
    Hey cheddar - in the midwest thread you mentioned that Gander has lots of powder. Was that the outlet in Madison, or the big store in Deforest?
     
  9. cheddar

    cheddar Active Member

    Messages:
    28
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Outlet?? I only know of the new big store on the north side of town(Token Creek/Deforest). I didn't see Varget. I can go there again if you need me to look for something in particular.
     
  10. DreamMaker

    DreamMaker Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    45
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2009
    cheddar - I've never been to either of those stores, because we have a Gander in Janesville. The Madison outlet is listed on Gander's web site under retail location. Thanks for the offer, but I'll be running some errands today and I might just sneak up to the Gander in Deforest. However, if you go to the Madison outlet, let me know what you think.
     
  11. cheddar

    cheddar Active Member

    Messages:
    28
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Holy crap! I thought they closed that one! I need to go there ASAP!
     
  12. DreamMaker

    DreamMaker Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    45
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2009
    cheddar - let me know if the have any large rifle primers. For that matter small rifle too. I went to Gander in Janesville and found 1lb of Varget. I picked that up along with IMR4895 and H335. They had no rifle powders.

    Went to Gander in Deforest and purchased some .223 and .308 bullets along with some CCI 400's. They only hard some pistol primers and CCI 400. No large rifle primers. I would really like to find some match rifle (small & large) primers.
     
  13. cheddar

    cheddar Active Member

    Messages:
    28
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    How many 400s were left? Did you notice they were in the wrong cabinet? Thats the powder only cabinet. I was going to Cabela's in du Chein tomorrow, but that got cancelled. Finding reloading manuals around here is impossible. Gander wants $40 for the Nosler #6 where as Cabela's wants $20. None of the book stores here have any idea what I'm talking about...Frustrating.
     
  14. cheddar

    cheddar Active Member

    Messages:
    28
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    I just talked to the Gander outlet, they only stock footwear and apperal.