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<blockquote data-quote="Guest" data-source="post: 94487"><p>Ian, there are several other facts to consider:</p><p></p><p>I'm not a fan of smokeless because of long range capabilites. I really do not think that it extends effective range all that much. I a fan because it adds consistency due to it cleaner burning capabilites. You can clean it like a Centerfire.</p><p></p><p>Game agencies will not stop smokeless. The idea is to lessen the deer population. If states tried to make it tougher the insurance companies would go beserk. The power of the NRA is nothing compared to the power of Insurance companies. They want guns and hunting more than most because of animal/car damage.</p><p></p><p>Safety? Shooting pyrodex is a safety hazard in itself. Many new ML hunters do not clean these highly corrosive powders then fire the gun a few months later with 3 50 grain pellets. Its riduclous to say that shooting a properly built smokeless is more dangerous.</p><p></p><p>If you are a ML shooter than you are a re-loader. Reloading of any kind can also cause accidents if too much powder is used. How many post have been on this board where a guy says that there bolt was stuck because of a hot load?</p><p></p><p>Another fact that cannot be ignored is that Hodgkins says "never use more that 100 grains" of Pyrodex or T7, but knight and T/C say to use 150???</p><p></p><p>Inline ML's have really taken off, and if we follow the trend then smokeless is inevitable. When someone with a "Mathews" marketing blitz starts selling smokeless Knight is in trouble.</p><p>(Mathews Bows market there product like there is no tomorrow)</p><p></p><p>The hunting mags and shows are not about to promote smokeless because Knight and T/C are major sponsers. Gun shops are in the same boat because they make a lot of money selling T/C and Knight.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line is that claiming smokeless muzzleloading is bad because people load improperly and hurt themselves, then the same holds true for pyrodex, T7, real Black Powder, or any other smoking propellent AND ammo reloaders. They are ALL capable of overloading.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, the DOT and BATF both consider Pyrodex "Smokeless Powder"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest, post: 94487"] Ian, there are several other facts to consider: I'm not a fan of smokeless because of long range capabilites. I really do not think that it extends effective range all that much. I a fan because it adds consistency due to it cleaner burning capabilites. You can clean it like a Centerfire. Game agencies will not stop smokeless. The idea is to lessen the deer population. If states tried to make it tougher the insurance companies would go beserk. The power of the NRA is nothing compared to the power of Insurance companies. They want guns and hunting more than most because of animal/car damage. Safety? Shooting pyrodex is a safety hazard in itself. Many new ML hunters do not clean these highly corrosive powders then fire the gun a few months later with 3 50 grain pellets. Its riduclous to say that shooting a properly built smokeless is more dangerous. If you are a ML shooter than you are a re-loader. Reloading of any kind can also cause accidents if too much powder is used. How many post have been on this board where a guy says that there bolt was stuck because of a hot load? Another fact that cannot be ignored is that Hodgkins says "never use more that 100 grains" of Pyrodex or T7, but knight and T/C say to use 150??? Inline ML's have really taken off, and if we follow the trend then smokeless is inevitable. When someone with a "Mathews" marketing blitz starts selling smokeless Knight is in trouble. (Mathews Bows market there product like there is no tomorrow) The hunting mags and shows are not about to promote smokeless because Knight and T/C are major sponsers. Gun shops are in the same boat because they make a lot of money selling T/C and Knight. Bottom line is that claiming smokeless muzzleloading is bad because people load improperly and hurt themselves, then the same holds true for pyrodex, T7, real Black Powder, or any other smoking propellent AND ammo reloaders. They are ALL capable of overloading. Lastly, the DOT and BATF both consider Pyrodex "Smokeless Powder" [/QUOTE]
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