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<blockquote data-quote="winmag" data-source="post: 666885" data-attributes="member: 22166"><p>There's a reason for that when your talking Elk, & 1k. More momentum than lil 7mm bullets is a great place to start. Especially with Elk in the picture. When you run out of paper for crunching numbers, & stats, & actual bullets hit bone, the heavier bullet will continue to push thru, when the little ones run out of steam (momentum). Calculating 1500 ft lbs & 1800-2000 fps expansion window only gets you so far. It's what happens after impact that makes folks love the 338. Barrel life is another for practice/proficiency at 1k.</p><p>Plus, with the CURRENT offerings available (that I'm aware of -i.e. no 195 on the market quite yet) the 230 300 beats the 7mm no contest. Now introduce the big 338mags & they Trump the 300's, so ya.... There's a lot of that around here.</p><p>Ya the numbers are great for your 195 7mm. No one can argue that. It's gonna be the latest greatest for the 7mm guys. (When will it even be available by the way? & Is it proven yet?) But honestly the Only thing a 7mm will do better than a big 338 is less recoil. But they make very effective muzzle brakes for that, so I guess that's a push. Ya.... Personally, I'll take big guns for LR Elk any day over one the just gets me by. More lugg nuts wins the wreck.</p><p>Balistically, & on paper, the 7mm looks sweet. But sorry man, I just don't drink the 7mm koolaid for 1k Elk. I know the numbers are there, but so is a 223 60 gr partition to a certain velocity, & yardage. That doesn't make it a great Elk round to the end of its effective range does it? Sure it'll work, the numbers are there, but its not my opinion that numbers mean everything.</p><p></p><p>P.S. to the O.P. my vote mirrors shortpants, & Broz. A 300 mag of one kind or another for an all purpose rifle, & step up to a big 338 if its mostly 1k & beyond work.</p><p></p><p>Oddly enough, I just a had a Long Action 300WSM built for this exact purpose.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> but I plan on limiting my range to 850 or less on Elk because of the bullet I plan to use (personal choice). If I wanted to go the full 1k on Elk, I'd use the Berger, but then again if I wanted to go the full 1k , I'd build a big 338gun)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="winmag, post: 666885, member: 22166"] There's a reason for that when your talking Elk, & 1k. More momentum than lil 7mm bullets is a great place to start. Especially with Elk in the picture. When you run out of paper for crunching numbers, & stats, & actual bullets hit bone, the heavier bullet will continue to push thru, when the little ones run out of steam (momentum). Calculating 1500 ft lbs & 1800-2000 fps expansion window only gets you so far. It's what happens after impact that makes folks love the 338. Barrel life is another for practice/proficiency at 1k. Plus, with the CURRENT offerings available (that I'm aware of -i.e. no 195 on the market quite yet) the 230 300 beats the 7mm no contest. Now introduce the big 338mags & they Trump the 300's, so ya.... There's a lot of that around here. Ya the numbers are great for your 195 7mm. No one can argue that. It's gonna be the latest greatest for the 7mm guys. (When will it even be available by the way? & Is it proven yet?) But honestly the Only thing a 7mm will do better than a big 338 is less recoil. But they make very effective muzzle brakes for that, so I guess that's a push. Ya.... Personally, I'll take big guns for LR Elk any day over one the just gets me by. More lugg nuts wins the wreck. Balistically, & on paper, the 7mm looks sweet. But sorry man, I just don't drink the 7mm koolaid for 1k Elk. I know the numbers are there, but so is a 223 60 gr partition to a certain velocity, & yardage. That doesn't make it a great Elk round to the end of its effective range does it? Sure it'll work, the numbers are there, but its not my opinion that numbers mean everything. P.S. to the O.P. my vote mirrors shortpants, & Broz. A 300 mag of one kind or another for an all purpose rifle, & step up to a big 338 if its mostly 1k & beyond work. Oddly enough, I just a had a Long Action 300WSM built for this exact purpose.:D but I plan on limiting my range to 850 or less on Elk because of the bullet I plan to use (personal choice). If I wanted to go the full 1k on Elk, I'd use the Berger, but then again if I wanted to go the full 1k , I'd build a big 338gun) [/QUOTE]
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