Which 6.5 ?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by darrindlh, May 20, 2013.

  1. darrindlh

    darrindlh Well-Known Member

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    Guys I need your help please. I am in the market for a 6.5 to coexists with my 300wm. I am looking for either 6.5x284 or a 6.5 creedmore or a 260rem. I am looking at a savage predator and placing it in a mcree chassis . I want to shoot steal as far as a can with this cartridge. Which one would you chose and why?

    Darrin
     
  2. Jumpalot

    Jumpalot Well-Known Member

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    Hate to be that guy, but have you tried the search function? Seems like this same thread is started twice a week. With that being said, I have a 300wm and I've had both the 6.5-284 and a 260. I'd only do the 6.5-284 in a long action and the 260 with the 140 Bergers is probably better suited to a long action as well. I shoot the 123 AMax's in my 260 but it's more of my truck gun for coyotes etc. The 6.5-284 is very accurate as well and will push the heavier bullets faster giving you more range but you'll be sacrificing barrel life. Can't speak to the Creedmore as I've never owned one. Love my 260 but will be adding a 6.5-284 back into the rack as well. Heck buy them all and report back which one works best and sell the two that didn't fit the bill. LOL!!
     

  3. HARPERC

    HARPERC Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered some 123 A-Max for coyotes, rifles not here yet (6.5 284). How are they working on coyotes for you.
     
  4. Sargesniper

    Sargesniper Well-Known Member

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    Darrin, i had a 6.5x284 and rebarreled to .260 after only firing 780 rounds through it. The 6.5x284 is a great round but it will not last long if you shoot it much. It is a notorious barrel burner for sure. The .260 will last much longer if you do not try to match speeds of the 6.5x284. I had a 30" barrel installed and it gives very good accuracy and speed also. You may also want to look at the 6.5x55 Swede. It too is a great round and it is also very accurate. If you only want to get high velocity,by all means go with the 6.5x284 you will love it but the love affair wont last long as the throat will go out on you and a barrel change will be in order for you to get accuracy back from the rifle. Whatever you choose i wish you the best. ... SEMPER FI!
     
  5. benchracer

    benchracer Well-Known Member

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    The Savage Predator does not come chambered in any of the cartridges you mentioned. The 111 Trophy Hunter XP, however, is available in all three chamberings. If you want to shoot factory ammo, go Creedmoor. If you are going to handload, the .260 or 6.5-284 are the way to go. Lapua makes brass for both cartridges. It's worth the money, IMO. Of the two, I would go with the .260. I say that because my favorite 6.5 is the 6.5x55 and the .260 is pretty much the short action equivalent.

    I have rifles in 6.5x55, 6.5-284, and .264WM. I really like the 6.5x55. It is probably my favorite of the three. It's mild mannered, teriffically accurate, easy to load for, and all the top quality components are available for it. Mine is built on a Zastava 98 pattern commercial mauser. The old Swede belongs in this rifle and shows it by the way it performs.

    My 6.5-284 shoots well, but I am kind of underwhelmed by it. I am still trying different loads with it, but so far, I have to really push pressures to get it to perform to a level where it offers any advantage over the 6.5x55. I have been loading with H4831 and intend to step up to Retumbo in hopes that the cartridge will come alive.

    My .264WM spanks my 6.5-284 in every way. You are going to pay a price in barrel life with either cartridge. If you want to go for something above the performance level of the Creedmoor/.260/6.5x55, I say go high or go home. I much prefer .264WM over 6.5-284!
     
  6. Greyfox

    Greyfox Well-Known Member

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    In a hunting rifle I would go with the 6.5-284. Deadly on med game out to 1000 yards. For shooting rocks, targets and game out to 600-700 yards, a 260 or CM. The Predator is an exceptional shooter in 6.5-284. At least the ones I've shot. IMHO
     
  7. darrindlh

    darrindlh Well-Known Member

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    Thank you all for the replys. I am not looking for high speed. I really do not want to rebarrel my barrel after 1000 rds. Sargesniper what kind of velocity are you achieving with a 30 in barrel in your 260.
    Bebchracer I am looking at the predator max 10 or 110. These three chamberings are offered in this rifle. I like the heavier profile barrel of the max 10 or 110 over the other offerings.
    Greyfox do you shoot the 140 bergers? Did you change the stock or is it the factory accustock?

    Darrin
     
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  8. Greyfox

    Greyfox Well-Known Member

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    I use 140 VLD's and get 2965 FPS. The Predator in 6.5-284 I shot had the factory hunting stock. I have an LRH in 6.5-284 and a Predator in 22-250. I use both with the factory stocks. For hunting they work fine for me. Both rifles hold .25-.5 MOA.
     
  9. darrindlh

    darrindlh Well-Known Member

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    So after shooting both the predator and the lrh in the 6.5x284which did you prefer shooting? I know both shot extremely well so prob either would suffice . Thanks again for your help

    Darrin
     
  10. Outlaw6.0

    Outlaw6.0 Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered the Predator Hunter Max in 6.5 Creed.... Man that's an ugly stock.... So much for the budget, that thing's gotta go :D

    I was looking for something to feed my 6.5 addiction w/o torching the throat of my 6.5WSM. Since I have the WSM I felt the x284 wasn't necessary. I'm looking to utilize the Creed as a work horse/trainer of sorts. Needed lots 'o' barrel life.

    The Creed & 260 are so close it's a wash. The 260 does offer Lapua brass which is a huge Pro in itself. The new Hornady brass is receiving fantastic reviews so I'm not too worried as it has offered availability above & beyond that of Lapua.

    One poster stated above "if you shoot factory ammo, buy the Creed". << Dern good advice right there. Hornady's factory match ammo (all I can find is the 123's right now) is supposed to be damn good. You CAN get 260 match ammo but it's harder to find & generally more expensive.

    I just ordered 2 boxes of 6.5Creed loaded with 130bergers from Copper Creek, there's another 200 rounds of brass coming from Cabelas. We'll see how the Bergers do, it not it's all JLK or Matrix from there. :rolleyes:


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  11. darrindlh

    darrindlh Well-Known Member

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    Outlaw, are you reading my mind. Me too I want my 6.5 to be my workhorse training gun . I can shoot that thing all day long and the 6.5 will help me with my wind calls. What grain of bullet are you going to shoot in your creed? Thank you for your help

    Darrin
     
  12. Outlaw6.0

    Outlaw6.0 Well-Known Member

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    You're more than welcome, that's why this site exists. The loaded ammo I purchased is loaded with the 130grain Berger Hunting VLD. If that doesn't shoot, I've read MANY reports of excellent results with the Factory 140grn A-Max ammo. Both of which could be used to wack a goat or deer :rolleyes:, you know, just in case :D

    I will be handloading for this at some point. I'm thinking the 130 grain JLK's would be just about perfect for this case. Higher BC than the Berger & light enough to get good velocity. We'll see what she likes, that's the good (& sometimes bad) thing about reloading, you get to try different things.*


    *Caution: Testing various bullet/powder combinations in copious amounts has been know by the State of Wyoming to cause mild to severe cases of Tinkeritis. :D


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  13. darrindlh

    darrindlh Well-Known Member

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    Holy cow the 130 jlk is awesome. Is .620 the true bc? Man I just love a rifle that not a lot of people have . I think I'm leaning towards the 6.5 predator and then bed it in a Mcree percision stock. I'm thinking the 130's at 2900 would be sweet. What Do you think 2900 is a reach with the 130's?

    Darrin
     
  14. Outlaw6.0

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    2900 should be doable, I've heard 2850-ish with the 140's. In all honesty I can't say. My SWAG ability says it should be damn close. Maybe RL-17 or a VV-N? Series?

    I've used Mcree's chassis before, damn good equipment. How do you get around the bolt release on the trigger guard of the new Savages?? I'm still trying to figure that one out...

    Instead of bedding the Mcrees, Check this out:

    Surfin the day away. . .


    Chad is CNC inletting Chassis to the exact dimensions of your action... tell me that ain't the cat's ass:cool:



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