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Where is the balance between weight and speed?
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<blockquote data-quote="angus-5024" data-source="post: 862910" data-attributes="member: 10306"><p>Sorry MonatanaRifleman, </p><p>I referred to the 778 bull moose down thread (both good threads). In regards to the Berger "fail" (I'm treading lightly here), I have my doubts about what happened in that situation and some of the decisions that were made that may or may not have been poor. Either way, I know that bullets will eventually fail and one "report" isn't conclusive enough for me. When Several people that are fairly well know have bad experiences, then I'll write the bullet off. Now back on track. </p><p> </p><p>If you do run the numbers of the 250 OTM against the 300 OTM, you will be surprised at how long it takes the 300 to catch up. Its a full 1200 yards, which is the effective range of my rifle anyways.</p><p>I run a .338 RUM with 250 OTM's at 3050 fps (gonna go faster when I open up the mag well). I used to single feed 300 OTM's at 2760 fps, but see too many grizzlies to not have a second in the mag. Once I switched I liked it ALOT. </p><p> </p><p>I have only killed one black bear with the bullet at 208 yards so I cant say that I have a pile of evidence for the bullet. I shoulder shot the bear (last three hours of the hunting trip and didn't feel like hauling it out any further). Bullet in 2-1/2" out. DRT as it should be with a 250 grain bullet at that range. </p><p> </p><p>When you compare the S.D of the 250 OTM to the S.D of the 215 Berger they are VERY close, and that ones a proven performer. </p><p> </p><p>I would shoot the classic hunters but they are hard to get around here. I would prefer the CE 252's but they are $$$.</p><p>One thing that I will say about the 250's is CHECK THE NOSE FOR DEBRIS AND CLOSE UPS!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="angus-5024, post: 862910, member: 10306"] Sorry MonatanaRifleman, I referred to the 778 bull moose down thread (both good threads). In regards to the Berger "fail" (I'm treading lightly here), I have my doubts about what happened in that situation and some of the decisions that were made that may or may not have been poor. Either way, I know that bullets will eventually fail and one "report" isn't conclusive enough for me. When Several people that are fairly well know have bad experiences, then I'll write the bullet off. Now back on track. If you do run the numbers of the 250 OTM against the 300 OTM, you will be surprised at how long it takes the 300 to catch up. Its a full 1200 yards, which is the effective range of my rifle anyways. I run a .338 RUM with 250 OTM's at 3050 fps (gonna go faster when I open up the mag well). I used to single feed 300 OTM's at 2760 fps, but see too many grizzlies to not have a second in the mag. Once I switched I liked it ALOT. I have only killed one black bear with the bullet at 208 yards so I cant say that I have a pile of evidence for the bullet. I shoulder shot the bear (last three hours of the hunting trip and didn't feel like hauling it out any further). Bullet in 2-1/2" out. DRT as it should be with a 250 grain bullet at that range. When you compare the S.D of the 250 OTM to the S.D of the 215 Berger they are VERY close, and that ones a proven performer. I would shoot the classic hunters but they are hard to get around here. I would prefer the CE 252's but they are $$$. One thing that I will say about the 250's is CHECK THE NOSE FOR DEBRIS AND CLOSE UPS! [/QUOTE]
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