I just watched a few videos put together by the anti-gun lobby on youtube.com, using excerbts for 60min report on the 50bmg (calling it the rolls royce of assult/sniper rounds). This CRAP makes my blood boil! They claim that one round from a fifty could bring down a passenger airliner. WELL NO [censored], BUT WHAT THEY DON TELL YOU IS THAT ONE ROUND FROM ANY HIGH POWERED RIFLE COULD DO THE SAME THING. One of the videos was a political ad in CA that the police department participated in. They described how a 50cal round can pass through the doors of one POLICE car then through the doors of another POLICE car and still have enough energy to kill you. Again NO [censored]! I've got a 30-30 that will do the same thing using hunting bullets let alone so called armor piercing bullets. Which by the way is just about any projectile of sufficient mass with an impact velocity of around 1500-2000fps. The more mass the less velocity it takes, kevlar works by slowing the projo down. If there is enough mass or velocity the kevlar can't slow the bullet down fast enough and fails, not because the bullets were designed to do that but because of the limitations of the kevlar. Hell a 17 rem fired at close range will penetrate at least the front side of a kevlar vest. Take a 180gr 45ACP bullet and accelerate it to 2000fps and that thing will zip right through a so-called bullet proof vest. It's not until you put ceramic plates in the vest that it will have even a chance of stopping bullets traveling at higher velocities, and I ain't talking AP bullets either I'm talking soft point hunting bullets. Don't even get me started on those banned black talon (cop killer) bullets. The pistol bullets with teflon coating originaly designed to eliminate copper fouling (which worked in eliminating the copper but only replaced it with teflon fouling), I'd realy like for someone to show me proof of any crime they were used in where they pierced a kevlar vest when fired at handgun velocities. If only the american public were educated in the physics involved in how a bullet is able to penetrate anything instead of being frightened into believing that if it's military IT'S GONNA KILL YOU. I've done a lot a paper punching, rock shooting, as well as shooting steel. When you can put a hole though a 1/4" steel plate at 750yds and it has the same appearance as one shot point blank (no dimple just a nice hole with metal flowing both directions ie. high impact velocity) with nothing more than a 270cal 135gr SMK with initial velocity @3800fps, I think my hunting rifle is next on the HIT LIST! They're going to start with the 50bmg and next it will be every caliber ever adopted by any military on earth. OH [censored]! THAT'S JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THAT DAINTY LITTLE 17CAL. That is until some government adopts it in there next weapon of choice, if they haven't already done it. Well If your reading this I apologize! Just had to vent some of the frustrations that have been building up before I blew up.