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When is it not considered an entry level Optic?
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<blockquote data-quote="5RWill" data-source="post: 1414974" data-attributes="member: 98561"><p>To me it's like there are tiers of glass. As mentioned that's basically what's changing, that and a more solidified guarantee of the optic working. Though mechanically speaking they're all supposed to work.. and despite what anyone might think..yes $3000 optics can fail. Then again it's man made so meh.</p><p></p><p>My views stem from pretty much a purely PRS/NRL/Competition standpoint. As the hunting realm of scopes offer better glass for the money than the competition oriented because simply put FFP is more expensive to manufacture.</p><p></p><p>In the $1000-1500 range you start to acquire the features that are sought after for premium optics. Zero stop, FFP, 10-Mil turrets, lots of elevation travel, etc. For this category the glass usually seems to be always lacking to me, mostly in CA but can also be resolution, edge to edge clarity, or low light performance.</p><p></p><p>Then there is $1500-2000 category with the same feature set but a pretty large bump in quality of glass. Resolution is a definite upgrade, though CA is still a big problem. I.E. DMR II/HDMR II, Althon Cronus.</p><p></p><p>$2500-3300 is what i consider tier 1 glass where you're reaching the pinnacle of performance. CA is non-existent, resolution and edge to edge clarity are superb, and low light performance is remarkable.</p><p></p><p>It's really all preference and subjective though. This day in age a $1500 optic with decent glass that tracks isn't going to prevent you from hitting the target and certainly isn't going to improve your shooting. Having said that i prefer nice glass and once you look through something like a Gen II razor, AMG, ATACR, Kahles, or Mark 5HD it's extremely hard to want to go backwards. It also kind of becomes addicting as hell. I enjoy quality optics and want to try out many top tier optics in the future. Right now i simply don't have the means to acquire a ton of these to compare them as school is about to become overwhelming for me. I've looked through all those i just mentioned except the AMG, which i'm eagerly wanting and contemplating putting my Mark 5HD up to fund. I've never looked through an S&B, TT, or Minox and would like to see those. The aforementioned two are widely considered the pinnacle of glass. Would love to get a look at ZCO also as well as Kahles new 525i.</p><p></p><p>It's funny to me looking back on it when i started you had four to five choices for practical long range shooting scopes that were FFP; Leupold, NF, USO, Hendsolt, and S&B. That was a decade ago now $1000 will get you that with decent glass and you're set. Though also the premium market has bumped up as well with the names mentioned above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5RWill, post: 1414974, member: 98561"] To me it's like there are tiers of glass. As mentioned that's basically what's changing, that and a more solidified guarantee of the optic working. Though mechanically speaking they're all supposed to work.. and despite what anyone might think..yes $3000 optics can fail. Then again it's man made so meh. My views stem from pretty much a purely PRS/NRL/Competition standpoint. As the hunting realm of scopes offer better glass for the money than the competition oriented because simply put FFP is more expensive to manufacture. In the $1000-1500 range you start to acquire the features that are sought after for premium optics. Zero stop, FFP, 10-Mil turrets, lots of elevation travel, etc. For this category the glass usually seems to be always lacking to me, mostly in CA but can also be resolution, edge to edge clarity, or low light performance. Then there is $1500-2000 category with the same feature set but a pretty large bump in quality of glass. Resolution is a definite upgrade, though CA is still a big problem. I.E. DMR II/HDMR II, Althon Cronus. $2500-3300 is what i consider tier 1 glass where you're reaching the pinnacle of performance. CA is non-existent, resolution and edge to edge clarity are superb, and low light performance is remarkable. It's really all preference and subjective though. This day in age a $1500 optic with decent glass that tracks isn't going to prevent you from hitting the target and certainly isn't going to improve your shooting. Having said that i prefer nice glass and once you look through something like a Gen II razor, AMG, ATACR, Kahles, or Mark 5HD it's extremely hard to want to go backwards. It also kind of becomes addicting as hell. I enjoy quality optics and want to try out many top tier optics in the future. Right now i simply don't have the means to acquire a ton of these to compare them as school is about to become overwhelming for me. I've looked through all those i just mentioned except the AMG, which i'm eagerly wanting and contemplating putting my Mark 5HD up to fund. I've never looked through an S&B, TT, or Minox and would like to see those. The aforementioned two are widely considered the pinnacle of glass. Would love to get a look at ZCO also as well as Kahles new 525i. It's funny to me looking back on it when i started you had four to five choices for practical long range shooting scopes that were FFP; Leupold, NF, USO, Hendsolt, and S&B. That was a decade ago now $1000 will get you that with decent glass and you're set. Though also the premium market has bumped up as well with the names mentioned above. [/QUOTE]
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