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<blockquote data-quote="Brad Quarnberg" data-source="post: 2911154" data-attributes="member: 107866"><p>Well, since you quoted my post, I can only assume your last paragraph was in reference to my post so here's the answer.</p><p></p><p>First, no follow up shot was needed, but I certainly was not going to Not take a second shot if I could. </p><p>Because of the terrain and trees, I had the scope on 8 power to get ensure there wasn't something obscuring the vitals.</p><p>The Moufflon Ram was on the edge of a small clearing at 325yards. At the shot it jumped and headed down hill at a run, tumbling the last few feet before disappearing into a group of trees about 10 yards below where he'd been feeding. </p><p>I was laying on a small knob with steep drop offs on three sides and had to crawl to get into a position I could clearly see the ram. The knob was so small, my friend and professional hunter couldn't fit on it, and one of my legs was supported by my toes that had a tenuous purchase on a small rock below me.</p><p> </p><p>There might be minor differences in FOV between 4 and 6 power scopes, but all scopes are not created equal, and the FOV can and is very different depending on manufacturer. You can make a general statement about FOV between the 2 being "almost negligible" but I would throw in the conversation that it depends on what your definition of "negligible" is, and what the shooting circumstances are.</p><p></p><p>A Vortex Crossfire 2 FOV@100yrds is listed at 25.7". A Leupold, Freedom 4-12x50 FOV is 22"@100yrds. </p><p>A Vortex Viper 6-24x50 FOV is 17.8"@100yrds, and a Kahles 6-14x50 FOB is 20.4"@100yrds.</p><p>A Burris Fullfield 4, 4x vs 6x is 26" vs 20"@100yrds.</p><p>On a running target even 4x is a challenge in any type of terrain. Easier in the open from a standing or sitting position, but infinitely harder when you're prone with a small window and no ability to shift positions.</p><p></p><p>Back to the Ram. After about 10 minutes of no movement from the trees he disappeared into, I went to the spot he'd been hit and found a massive blood trail. The Ram just inside the trees and the shot was a perfect heart shot.</p><p></p><p>I've hunted and killed many moose and elk. I've helped recover moose and elk that hunters failed to take or connect with a follow up shot and the animals headed into steep canyons that required long hikes with heavy packs, and a bunch of manpower to get them out. </p><p>In almost all of the cases, the initial shot was lethal. But those animals are strong and sometimes they go for many yards before they realize they're dead. In several cases I was witness to, the animals ran after being shot and ended up over the lip of a ravine, tumbling sometimes a hundred or more feet into the bottom. I always, especially on large animals, or animals I'm hunting in steep terrain, try to take a follow-up shot if they don't drop immediately. </p><p></p><p>Experiences between hunters can and does vary just like their equipment.</p><p>I am always learning, always trying to improve my knowledge and I always try to see things from a different perspective, even if I don't always agree. Sometimes I gain a better appreciation of things by doing so.</p><p></p><p>My experience is that 6x at the bottom end of a scope is too high for me personally. I've met and hunted with others that it works fine for them. That's the beauty of having the ability to choose what works for you.</p><p></p><p>I remember when I was a kid and first started hunting. My belief was that everyone should shoot a 270 win. One of my buddies had a 308 and another a 243. Neither was enough gun for western mule deer. Now that I'm older and more experienced, I realize my view was very narrow and that one size doesn't fit all.</p><p></p><p>Happy Hunting/Shooting to all!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brad Quarnberg, post: 2911154, member: 107866"] Well, since you quoted my post, I can only assume your last paragraph was in reference to my post so here's the answer. First, no follow up shot was needed, but I certainly was not going to Not take a second shot if I could. Because of the terrain and trees, I had the scope on 8 power to get ensure there wasn't something obscuring the vitals. The Moufflon Ram was on the edge of a small clearing at 325yards. At the shot it jumped and headed down hill at a run, tumbling the last few feet before disappearing into a group of trees about 10 yards below where he'd been feeding. I was laying on a small knob with steep drop offs on three sides and had to crawl to get into a position I could clearly see the ram. The knob was so small, my friend and professional hunter couldn't fit on it, and one of my legs was supported by my toes that had a tenuous purchase on a small rock below me. There might be minor differences in FOV between 4 and 6 power scopes, but all scopes are not created equal, and the FOV can and is very different depending on manufacturer. You can make a general statement about FOV between the 2 being "almost negligible" but I would throw in the conversation that it depends on what your definition of "negligible" is, and what the shooting circumstances are. A Vortex Crossfire 2 FOV@100yrds is listed at 25.7". A Leupold, Freedom 4-12x50 FOV is 22"@100yrds. A Vortex Viper 6-24x50 FOV is 17.8"@100yrds, and a Kahles 6-14x50 FOB is 20.4"@100yrds. A Burris Fullfield 4, 4x vs 6x is 26" vs 20"@100yrds. On a running target even 4x is a challenge in any type of terrain. Easier in the open from a standing or sitting position, but infinitely harder when you're prone with a small window and no ability to shift positions. Back to the Ram. After about 10 minutes of no movement from the trees he disappeared into, I went to the spot he'd been hit and found a massive blood trail. The Ram just inside the trees and the shot was a perfect heart shot. I've hunted and killed many moose and elk. I've helped recover moose and elk that hunters failed to take or connect with a follow up shot and the animals headed into steep canyons that required long hikes with heavy packs, and a bunch of manpower to get them out. In almost all of the cases, the initial shot was lethal. But those animals are strong and sometimes they go for many yards before they realize they're dead. In several cases I was witness to, the animals ran after being shot and ended up over the lip of a ravine, tumbling sometimes a hundred or more feet into the bottom. I always, especially on large animals, or animals I'm hunting in steep terrain, try to take a follow-up shot if they don't drop immediately. Experiences between hunters can and does vary just like their equipment. I am always learning, always trying to improve my knowledge and I always try to see things from a different perspective, even if I don't always agree. Sometimes I gain a better appreciation of things by doing so. My experience is that 6x at the bottom end of a scope is too high for me personally. I've met and hunted with others that it works fine for them. That's the beauty of having the ability to choose what works for you. I remember when I was a kid and first started hunting. My belief was that everyone should shoot a 270 win. One of my buddies had a 308 and another a 243. Neither was enough gun for western mule deer. Now that I'm older and more experienced, I realize my view was very narrow and that one size doesn't fit all. Happy Hunting/Shooting to all! [/QUOTE]
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