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<blockquote data-quote="Calvin45" data-source="post: 3079992" data-attributes="member: 109862"><p>can't argue with that…but until relatively recently the amount of people (and rifle/optic combos) that had any real business or capability of shooting at game beyond 400-500 yards was exponentially lower than what is the case today. Heck I'm not old but I know when I was a kid, among the very accomplished hunters and proficient shooters I knew, 300 was considered a far poke, 400 was long range, and 500 and up was deemed akin to stunting. </p><p></p><p> Inside those ranges a bc of .35-.5 doing 3000 ish feet per second has little real world disadvantage to higher bc bullets, especially if they're starting off slower, and the .270 by virtue of muzzle velocity keeps impact velocity at "emphatic" levels (over that 2400-2600 mark) for lighter framed big game farther out than the , .30-06, .303, .300 savage, and other common big game cartridges of that era while having the projectile mass to be decidedly more suitable for elk, moose, black bears and such than any quarter bore or 6.5 of its era (and I don't think it's any less suitable for those bigger animals at normal ranges than any 6.5 today either). </p><p></p><p>I absolutely agree with ya, if designed today it would make no sense, the long sloping shoulder, the handicap of the 10 twist…but in its day it really was a step forward in cartridge performance that came to success over time, not overnight, because it actually does work wonderfully and was able to do things few of its competitors could do and hits a lot of "sweet spots" for terminal and external ballistics in conjunction with acceptable recoil for ordinary hunters at the far end of "conventional" hunting ranges.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calvin45, post: 3079992, member: 109862"] can't argue with that…but until relatively recently the amount of people (and rifle/optic combos) that had any real business or capability of shooting at game beyond 400-500 yards was exponentially lower than what is the case today. Heck I'm not old but I know when I was a kid, among the very accomplished hunters and proficient shooters I knew, 300 was considered a far poke, 400 was long range, and 500 and up was deemed akin to stunting. Inside those ranges a bc of .35-.5 doing 3000 ish feet per second has little real world disadvantage to higher bc bullets, especially if they're starting off slower, and the .270 by virtue of muzzle velocity keeps impact velocity at "emphatic" levels (over that 2400-2600 mark) for lighter framed big game farther out than the , .30-06, .303, .300 savage, and other common big game cartridges of that era while having the projectile mass to be decidedly more suitable for elk, moose, black bears and such than any quarter bore or 6.5 of its era (and I don't think it's any less suitable for those bigger animals at normal ranges than any 6.5 today either). I absolutely agree with ya, if designed today it would make no sense, the long sloping shoulder, the handicap of the 10 twist…but in its day it really was a step forward in cartridge performance that came to success over time, not overnight, because it actually does work wonderfully and was able to do things few of its competitors could do and hits a lot of "sweet spots" for terminal and external ballistics in conjunction with acceptable recoil for ordinary hunters at the far end of "conventional" hunting ranges. [/QUOTE]
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