What's the best electronic scale?

Discussion in 'Equipment Discussions' started by mindcrime, Nov 25, 2002.

  1. mindcrime

    mindcrime Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    389
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    What\'s the best electronic scale?

    I'm tired of balancing the beam after each powder charge! What's the best electronic scale and why? Thanks for any comments.....I will be purchasing one SOON!!! [​IMG]
     

  2. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,537
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    MC,
    I use the Powder Pro (RCBS, PACT same thing) and I'll never go back. I got the dispensor too and use it primaraly to trickle after dumping the major charge on a modified Redding 3K measurer to within a grain or two. It works fast this way.

    As the scale warms up after it's turned on it is stable, if you start weighing things before it warms up your loads will gradually get lighter and lighter. As it warms up it the test weight gets heavier and heavier over the next 20-30 minutes, then it is stable. You can use the test weight to see how far off it is getting as it warms up.

    My 20 gram test weight weighs 308.7gr after it is calibrated as soon as it's turned on, it gradually weighs up to about 309.0 to 309.2gr when it stops and stabilizes, then it is calibrated again and your ready to go. Calibration takes about 30 seconds. I use the 308.7gr check weight periodically to verify all's ok as I go.

    I bought my father one for Christmas last year, I knew he would never spend the $$ on one. He loves his too.
     

  3. jhendri2

    jhendri2 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    180
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    Not trying to cause any trouble, but, you have to wait 30 Min for your scale to warm up before you start reloading? This sounds a bit excessive for me, since my beam scale and powder measure are already "warmed up" when I'm ready to reload.

    I use my powder measure a great deal, and I don't weigh but every 5th charge, the biggest reason I see for an electronic scale would be for weighing cases.

    Just my opinion.

    Jim
     
  4. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,537
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    That's just the way it is I'm afaid. One learns to plan ahead. Turn it on before dinner, reload after. If I'm planning on reloading first thing in the morning I'll leave it on all night so it's warm already. It can be a pain, just thought you'd want to know how it went getting started with one.

    I could throw all mine too, but I just like to see the numbers on each one, besides it can weigh and trickle them as fast as I can throw the next charge at the same time so dumping it in the pan is pretty much the added time is all, so why not weigh em then?

    Beam scales are a pain, but I still use one here and there. I'm spoiled now. It really isn't that hard to think about when you need to turn it on so it's ready either, trust me it's not that big of deal. My cases are all prept ahead of time and when I'm ready to load I'm ready to throw powder and seat bullets too.

    Mine sets on the loading bench 6" away from my Dillon RL550 too and the zero is unaffected, the dispensor is about 1" away from it.
     
  5. Ian M

    Ian M Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,410
    Joined:
    May 3, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    Brent,
    Very interesting notes about giving your electronic scale time to warm-up - I have never thought that might be a factor. Sometimes have had the kind of changes you mention and did not realize that might be the reason. Will try letting it sit for a half hour before using it - I went back to the 10-10 as my RCBS electronic scale seemed to be wandering too much. Also I usually forget how to get the electronic going (calibrated) and have to read the instructions each time, too many buttons to push, too much reading - especially for the dispenser and trickler!

    We don't try to make bench-rest ammo - don't do some of the accuracy tricks and procedures - but we want good shooting practice ammo for all our .308 Win. LR practicing. I check the measure to make sure it is throwing 45 Varget as it should be and then crank - don't bother checking powder weights after that. The progressive press has a powder checker die on it so I can visually see that each case has a powder charge and that it is not significantly different than the witness ring for that charge. Can average 100 rounds in twenty minutes and it shoots well.
    Electronic scales are time savers when weighing bullets or cases, like you I find the 10-10 quicker for occasional jobs.
     
  6. mindcrime

    mindcrime Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    389
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    Brent, you're just a wealth of information! [​IMG]
     
  7. CatShooter

    CatShooter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,047
    Joined:
    May 8, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    I have had a bunch of them... the Pact and RCBS are both made by Pact. Avoid the small Pact and RCBS... they are junk.

    I had a large RCBS, and it was very good, and never drifted.

    But I sold it because I wanted one that used a battery so I could load at the range... so I bought the Dillon Elliminator... POS!! It constantly drifts and never settles down. Now I use it to sort cases.

    So I finely bought a Lyamn 1000LE. Graeat measure... stable, doesn't drift, and comes with a pan cover that is wind proof, and you can dribble powder through a hole in the top of the cover.

    If I were to get one electronic scale, it would be the Lyman 1000... I would never get the Dillon again.

    CatShooter
     
  8. Nicholas

    Nicholas Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    469
    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    I have a Lyman 500 grain electronic scale and I really like it. I have noticed on occasion that wanders a bit. Sometimes it gets frustrating but about 80-90% of the time it stays right on, it sure is a lot faster than using a beam scale.
     
  9. pawlak1948

    pawlak1948 Member

    Messages:
    16
    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2002
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    The Ohaus Navigator is the best I have ever used. Kind of pricey at about 395.00
     
  10. back40sniper

    back40sniper Member

    Messages:
    16
    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2002
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    Have had a lyman since they came out and once you get used to the warmup as mentioned has performed well for several years. [​IMG]
     
  11. Ian M

    Ian M Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,410
    Joined:
    May 3, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    Brent,
    Would you mind if I phone you each time I forget those instructions - probably only a five hour time difference so no call would be before 2.00 a.m. [​IMG] How is the winter up there, you still waiting on snow and cold?

    I had a Lyman 1000 and it is a very nice scale, just the wrong color for my bench so I went with a green one. We have a couple of the bigger RCBS scales and they work well enough.
    The warm-up idea bugs me - I should have thought about that. Suppose it tells you in the instructions but never read them...
     
  12. Nicholas

    Nicholas Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    469
    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    Is the same warm up time required for the 500 grain model, anyone know?
     
  13. mindcrime

    mindcrime Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    389
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2002
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    Brent, I was already aware of the warmup time required for the electronic units---it's quite common. My dad's old RCBS beam is NOT working well. I think it has to do with stickage on the beam's pivot points. I've tried it with a thin coat of oil, and without(cleaned with Gunscrubber) to no avail. As you trickle the last little bit and you over fill by only a few granuals, it will sometimes race far higher than it should(indicating stickage). I have used this beam scale for YEARS but I need to be much more precise now that I have two benchrest rifles(6mm PPC and 6mm Ackley). I knew that the Pact and RCBS are identical(internals) but I was also considering the new Dillon scale with more capacity(it'd look good next to my 550 too). However, purchasing the Pact scale(not the BBK) and using that until I feel the necessity to buy the auto trickler would definitely keep all my options open. I just needed some opinions about what others were using. Thanks! [​IMG]
     
  14. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,537
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2001
    Re: What\'s the best electronic scale?

    I hate instruction too. These are really pretty simple and quick after a few times though.

    1-calibrate
    2-yes
    3-displays (0) press calibrate with zero weight on it
    4-displays (20) press calibrate with 20 on it
    5-displays (50) press calibrate with 50 on it
    6-displays (70) press calibrate with both weights on it together
    7-displays (0) press again with zero wt on it

    for the dispensor to work, just hit the calibrate button on the scale three times until it says trickle, then hit yes.

    1-dump in the powder and hit calibrate on the dispensor. 150-200gr and it's done.
    2-punch the weight in grains (92.0) including the tenth then ENTER.

    The memory light comes on if you've entered OK.

    Calibrate in either grains or grams, makes no difference either.

    If you need to dispense something more than the 99.9gr max, just weigh it up on the scale and hit the memory button on the dispensor, it will dump or trickle up to the new memory figure.

    I know, you guys already knew this. [​IMG]