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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 1571807" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>Please don't apologize it took me months to sort this out. I'm not an expert, or a gunsmith nor do I play one on TV<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />, just have done a lot of research on this topic; and I'm not all that certain that have all of this right? It really has to suck when you buy a rifle anticipating to have something really special and it turns out to be a PITA! Because the rifle is a new build, there are a number of extraneous variables that are applicable to your rifle. Did you try calling the original person who you bought the rifle from, what did that person say? One thing that you can say for certain to the person who you bought the rifle from is, that before you bought the rifle you didn't have this problem and since you've purchased it from him now you do. Due to the high potential that there's a probability that the dies you are using are not the proper ones for the chambering of your rifle, I would definitely need to find out what chambering/version you have for your .280 Ackley Improved; the SAAMI or the Traditional .280 Ackley Improved. And....this actually may not be the problem with your rifle, however it would help to rule this out before looking some place else. I was going to do a .280AI, but changed my mind and am building a .270AI instead. You can thank people at Nosler for this mess/confusion between their cartridge and the original Ackley Improved wildcat. The reamer that is used for "either chambering" is the same reamer, it's just that for the traditional Ackley Improved (Wildcat) the shoulder for the case is reamed .014 thousandths deeper. I think that something that you could do would be to take 10 casings that <u><em>"have" been fired in your rifle</em></u>, set up your shell holder and then your full-length resizing die putting a .014 thousandths space between the shell holder and the full-length sizing die and lock your die up. From there reload some ammunition and go to the range to see how they work in your rifle. I don't know the gunsmith who was used for the build, however it would seem that he ought to know <u><strong><em>exactly</em></strong></u> what chambering you have on your rifle because that's his job; and....it shouldn't cost you anything for him to tell you that. Telling you that he used the "standard" reamer is not really telling you what you need to know to rule out the whether you have the right or wrong dies for your rifle. I've attached a thread to this post from "Gunsmith" Talk (hope it helps), please note in the diagram that is comparing the measurements of the two cases (SAAMI/Traditional) the differences where the shoulder intersects with the neck, the SAAMI is 2.174 thousandths and the TRADITIONAL ACKLEY measure 2.188 = .014 thousandths. Good luck it's sad to read that you bought a rifle and are now having a situation where you don't know when the rifle is going to go off.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://gunsmithtalk.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/280-ackley-improved-alert" target="_blank">https://gunsmithtalk.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/280-ackley-improved-alert</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 1571807, member: 69192"] Please don’t apologize it took me months to sort this out. I'm not an expert, or a gunsmith nor do I play one on TV:rolleyes::rolleyes:, just have done a lot of research on this topic; and I'm not all that certain that have all of this right? It really has to suck when you buy a rifle anticipating to have something really special and it turns out to be a PITA! Because the rifle is a new build, there are a number of extraneous variables that are applicable to your rifle. Did you try calling the original person who you bought the rifle from, what did that person say? One thing that you can say for certain to the person who you bought the rifle from is, that before you bought the rifle you didn't have this problem and since you've purchased it from him now you do. Due to the high potential that there's a probability that the dies you are using are not the proper ones for the chambering of your rifle, I would definitely need to find out what chambering/version you have for your .280 Ackley Improved; the SAAMI or the Traditional .280 Ackley Improved. And....this actually may not be the problem with your rifle, however it would help to rule this out before looking some place else. I was going to do a .280AI, but changed my mind and am building a .270AI instead. You can thank people at Nosler for this mess/confusion between their cartridge and the original Ackley Improved wildcat. The reamer that is used for "either chambering" is the same reamer, it's just that for the traditional Ackley Improved (Wildcat) the shoulder for the case is reamed .014 thousandths deeper. I think that something that you could do would be to take 10 casings that [U][I]"have" been fired in your rifle[/I][/U], set up your shell holder and then your full-length resizing die putting a .014 thousandths space between the shell holder and the full-length sizing die and lock your die up. From there reload some ammunition and go to the range to see how they work in your rifle. I don't know the gunsmith who was used for the build, however it would seem that he ought to know [U][B][I]exactly[/I][/B][/U] what chambering you have on your rifle because that's his job; and....it shouldn't cost you anything for him to tell you that. Telling you that he used the "standard" reamer is not really telling you what you need to know to rule out the whether you have the right or wrong dies for your rifle. I've attached a thread to this post from "Gunsmith" Talk (hope it helps), please note in the diagram that is comparing the measurements of the two cases (SAAMI/Traditional) the differences where the shoulder intersects with the neck, the SAAMI is 2.174 thousandths and the TRADITIONAL ACKLEY measure 2.188 = .014 thousandths. Good luck it's sad to read that you bought a rifle and are now having a situation where you don't know when the rifle is going to go off. [URL]https://gunsmithtalk.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/280-ackley-improved-alert[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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