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<blockquote data-quote="WildWillie" data-source="post: 552532" data-attributes="member: 29658"><p>Jon -</p><p> </p><p>Finally made it outside to test this morning and things are looking up. After about 30 minutes I was shooting bullet holes through paper with an unfletched shaft and proceded to sight it back in.</p><p> </p><p>I have only shot out to 40 yds so far, but the groups are staying pretty tight. </p><p> </p><p>Two issues that did come up and I've found the problem to one of them.</p><p> </p><p>1st - I had one of the nocks break apart today which ruined the shaft. It turned out that there is a special serving between the "D" loop string which has a specific orientation. On my previous string this was very tight and took effort to move. The new string it is looser and has flipped around between shots. I did not notice when I nocked the arrow and when I shot it shattered the knock. It was when I went to knock the next arrow that I found it was turned backwards and therefore did not allow the knock to seat tight against the string (It is imperative to have the knock seated tightly against the string !!! ) This may be the root of problems that others were having that prompted Firenocks post about collars.</p><p> </p><p>2nd Problem I am having is based on grouping. I usually shoot 5 - 6 arrows at the target with the same aiming point (At > 40 yds) On a few occasions I will end up with 2 groups with one being centered at the aiming point and the other about 6" low. It does not happen every time, but I have had instances with 3 arrows dead on and 3 arrows 6" low(Both groups are tight, but they are 2 distinct groups) </p><p>To me it seems like the scope or mount is loose somewhere and slipping from one position to another. I had seen this before I changed strings and fixed the cam spacer problem. </p><p> </p><p>I checked all screws and everything is tight. The only thing I can see is a little movement from the HHA Optimizer mount when I put downward pressure on the front of the scope, but as soon as I release pressure it returns back to normal position. Not sure if that is the cause or not. I did read in another post a while ago about some of the early HHA Optimizers having a manufacturing problem. So this is still an issue.</p><p> </p><p>Next up is broadhead testing at 40 yds then take it back to 60yds.</p><p> </p><p>WildWillie</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WildWillie, post: 552532, member: 29658"] Jon - Finally made it outside to test this morning and things are looking up. After about 30 minutes I was shooting bullet holes through paper with an unfletched shaft and proceded to sight it back in. I have only shot out to 40 yds so far, but the groups are staying pretty tight. Two issues that did come up and I've found the problem to one of them. 1st - I had one of the nocks break apart today which ruined the shaft. It turned out that there is a special serving between the "D" loop string which has a specific orientation. On my previous string this was very tight and took effort to move. The new string it is looser and has flipped around between shots. I did not notice when I nocked the arrow and when I shot it shattered the knock. It was when I went to knock the next arrow that I found it was turned backwards and therefore did not allow the knock to seat tight against the string (It is imperative to have the knock seated tightly against the string !!! ) This may be the root of problems that others were having that prompted Firenocks post about collars. 2nd Problem I am having is based on grouping. I usually shoot 5 - 6 arrows at the target with the same aiming point (At > 40 yds) On a few occasions I will end up with 2 groups with one being centered at the aiming point and the other about 6" low. It does not happen every time, but I have had instances with 3 arrows dead on and 3 arrows 6" low(Both groups are tight, but they are 2 distinct groups) To me it seems like the scope or mount is loose somewhere and slipping from one position to another. I had seen this before I changed strings and fixed the cam spacer problem. I checked all screws and everything is tight. The only thing I can see is a little movement from the HHA Optimizer mount when I put downward pressure on the front of the scope, but as soon as I release pressure it returns back to normal position. Not sure if that is the cause or not. I did read in another post a while ago about some of the early HHA Optimizers having a manufacturing problem. So this is still an issue. Next up is broadhead testing at 40 yds then take it back to 60yds. WildWillie [/QUOTE]
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