What the heck happened here...???

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by nheninge, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. nheninge

    nheninge Well-Known Member

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    Posting this for a friend but a lot of great minds here.

    Remington 700 .270 Win stock rifle. Remington stock 270 win ammo (not reloads). Had been functioning fine and shot several rounds from the same box of ammo prior to this one (with stock accuracy as expected). This round detonated (misfire) and sprayed shooter with brass, powder and blowback (no major injuries thankfully). The bullet cleared the barrel (barrel clear) but locked the action up tight. Bolt removed (with great difficulty and breaking lever off) and this is what the case looked like after. Bolt neck fractured. The case primer pocket is 5x expanded. Dents in the case neck occurred while removing case from action. Any thoughts?
     

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  2. submoa

    submoa Well-Known Member

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    Don't know what happened maybe a short load of powder? But man you guys are lucky I would be thanking god your here to tell us about it
     

  3. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    I would contact the ammo manufacture immediately and get them involved!!!! After double checking that it was the correct ammo for the rifle.
     
  4. Bullet bumper

    Bullet bumper Well-Known Member

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    Is there any bulge in the barrel that could indicate an obstruction ?
    Sounds like no because of the previous ok shots.
    Do you have any enemies ?
    Did you lay the gun down by sliding it muzzle first where it could have picked up an obstruction just before that shot ?
    Check the bore out for any signs of heavily smeared copper in one spot . In this case it would have to be very close to the muzzle otherwise the barrel would have split .
    Did your ammo ever be in a place unattended so that someone could have set you up with an overload ?
    If the round was taken out of a new box of ammo it sounds like the powder load was the wrong type way too fast or spiked , maybe an act of vandalism by some disgruntled employee.
    Don't shoot anymore of the box or batch that it came from.
    If there is no indication of any fault on your part then report it to the manufacturers and go from there .
    There is another possibility and that is a faulty weak case head that just gave up .
    From what you have said it sure looks like faulty and or way over pressure ammo .
     
  5. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    Is the bore clear? Looks like you had an obstructed bore and the rem action did its job and held together. Glad you were not hurt. Save everything! unfired ammo, brass do not touch the rifle. Contact ammo manufacture and Remington.
     
  6. RT2506

    RT2506 Well-Known Member

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    See that is what you get for shooting factory ammo. Partly kidding. The only ammo mishaps I have ever had was with factory ammo. Keep that box the ammo came in and call the company RIGHT NOW so they can get that lot # recalled and pay for your rifle. Call Remington and tell them the facts. Thank God you were shooting a Remington 700 because of it's strength.
     
  7. nheninge

    nheninge Well-Known Member

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    The barrel looks to be intact no bulge, no obstruction. An obstructed barrel would cause a very different explosion and would not explain why the base of the case blew out. It was a remington stock gun with factory remington ammo. The gun was shooting off the bench at a range and previous shots were fine and the round immediately preceding went bang with no hint of problems. Everything is going back to remington. I agree that the problem seems to be with this single round (wrong powder, spiked). I just wanted to see if anyone had an issue like this before or could at least tell me what exactly happened according to the laws of pressure.


    On another note, I had the polymer tips falling off a box of winchester 7mm silvertips. Unexplained flyers were suddenly explained. Never shot factory ammo again. Likely never will again.
     
  8. cholla chomper

    cholla chomper Well-Known Member

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    Was there any unburned powder in the action or mag box like the bullet pushed into the shell? I had one do that and some powder spilled into the barrel in front of the bullet and it caused a pressure spike that expanded the primer pocket about three times the primer size and had a puff of black smoke around the bolt, I took it to a gunsmith and had it checked and it was his opinion that was what happened from seeing all of the powder inside the action.
     
  9. Lefty7mmstw

    Lefty7mmstw Well-Known Member

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    You are a lucky s.o.b.. I've only personally saeen this once with factory ammo and never with handloads. Back when I was in high-school I was at the local range and some poor guy was sighting in his 243 with fed. ammo. Next thing you know he's asking for help getting his action open. Same crap with blown open primer cup and brass damn near fused to the action. Never heard what happened afterward.

    To get that kind of failure you'd have to be somewhere between 80 and 100 KPSI, roundabout anyway.
     
  10. JackinSD

    JackinSD Well-Known Member

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    Makes me wonder if the gun had previously been using handloads that were over pressure? Possibly, stressing the action to the almost breaking point.

    So many possibilities.

    I'm with bigngreen here. Get ahold of the manufacturer.
     
  11. T3-OleMan

    T3-OleMan Well-Known Member

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    Glad no one was injured. Please KEEP us informed. One of us could be next???????gun)
     
  12. g0rd0

    g0rd0 Well-Known Member

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    first if there was no mistake on ammo contact the ammo manufacturer with the lot number and contact remington and contact your household insurance agent, Many years ago (94) I had a gp100 go boom in my hand, the cylender opend like a clam and the top of the frame resembled a camel. My insurance had me bring it to a smith for inspection then after that they replaced it for me then they went to the ammo manufacturer for their $ back.
    Good luck
     
  13. DanGuy48

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    Have there been any indications of excessive headspace before this happened?
     
  14. nheninge

    nheninge Well-Known Member

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    Sorry took a while to post reply. Damn work getting in the way of a perfectly good hobby... No handloads ever through this gun and this gun was fairly new with maybe 100 rounds through it. I like the theory the bullet may have pushed back but no powder in the action. However after dissection of the action by blunt force trauma not likely to see any. Way over pressure for sure. Pistol powder in the case? All components going back to remington where likely replaced. Glad didn't need that round for self defense!