What rimfire caliber for LR training

Discussion in 'Rimfire and Airguns' started by dust, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. dust

    dust Well-Known Member

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    Looking to build a 308 Savage, so I am looking at a rimfire to use to keep the practice price down, and I just want another rimfire. Been looking at the 22LR, and the 17HM2 or maybe the HMR. Looking for something that will be similar to the 308 in ballistics, so that I can get doping practice. Wanting to go with the Savage so I can get the bolt and trigger down, and will scope it similarly. Which of the three cartrideges would be better for cheaper practice for CF gun and doping?
     
  2. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    The little 17 is the flattest of the rim fires and savage makes a fine little 17 HMR with a
    laminated stock and the accutrigger.

    I have several 17 HMRs and have owned the 22 mag, the mach2 and a bunch of 22 lrs and
    the HMR will shoot 1/2 MOA @ 100 yards and Is the most fun rim fire I have ever owned.

    J E CUSTOM
     

  3. royinidaho

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    Yup, what J.E. said.
     
  4. dust

    dust Well-Known Member

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    It seems to me that the price of the HMR would put me into centerfire range. Looking for cheap to practice with, hence the 17hm2 or the 22LR
     
  5. BountyHunter

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    Go with the 22 LR

    17MH2 is not cheap to shoot. fun and flat but not cheap

    BH
     
  6. dust

    dust Well-Known Member

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    Seems to still be cheaper than match grade 22LR
     
  7. Moman

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    The 22 LR is by far the cheapest to shoot and I've got a bunch of them. But, I haven't fired a shot in any of mine since I picked up a 17 HMR a few years ago. Hands down, the funnest rimfire out there. All in all, they're not too expensive to shoot.

    While you're looking, try and match up the stock dimensions (LOP and Drops) to get as close a setup as the 308 you're building.
     
  8. dust

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    With a little work, you can find shelf grade 22's that will shoot very will in your gun. Not match grade level, but more than accurate enough for what you have in mind. I have several heavy barrel 22s and a 17MH2 and I have found shelf grade 22 fodder that is more than adequate. I love the MH2 for the flattness and cool factor, but if I was building a serious trainer, the 22 would be the way to go.

    Second and most importantly, the 22lr will more closely mirror the trajectory and wind capabilities of the 308 compared to the 17. The 17 is more like a 220 swift in that area. No comparison to shooting the 308.

    The guys that are building rimfire trainers are almost exclusively going to the 22 LR. Manners is making a version of his T2 and T4 stocks for certain 22s also.

    BH
     
  10. flyin lizard

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    First I will say good job for wanting to shoot so you become more proficient and for picking a savage,great guns.
    I have three ,22-250,300wsm and 17hmr, what has helped me is the fact that they all have the accu-trigger so I can go plink away with the 17 and still keep acquainted with all 3 triggers.
     
  11. dust

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    I have a ruger in 17, but wanted the extra accuracy and simplicity (not having to modify everything to get it to shoot). Maybe I should buy both and sell the Ruger?
     
  12. Savageman69

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    i would go with the savage package series i have the 93 cammo .22wmr and for buying to shooting tight groups i dont think you can do any better and scince you already know how great savage rifles are i think its a smart move.
    and price wasnt your only request because if thats the concern a 22lr is the best bet but for ballistic performance the .22wmr would be better to train with it goes out to 200 (with some drop mind you) but its predictable and most importantly repeatable the hmr is too light to shoot far and be consistant you cant practice at 150yds when the bullet flies all over and goes transonic,

    i love the .22 mag and am confident at range whatever im shooting at will drop.
     
  13. BillR

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    I shoot a .308 Win in a Remington VSF with the H-S Precision tatical stock W/adj comb and LOP and with a Mk 4 6.5X20 on it. For Practice I have a Kimber SVT in .22LR that has a Leupold 6.5X20 VXIII with Stoney Point turrets on it that I use for training. If your shooting out to 300 yds with the .22 it will teach you a lot about wind drift and drops. Lots of dialing and keeping notes. You get use to doing that and it translates very well to what you will need to do long range with the .308 and shooting a 175gr Matchking. They both are a lot of fun to play with and give you cheap practice for when you get to the big guns. :)
     
  14. tc.mich

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    I like 22 lr, $13 for 500 win xperts 10/22 with adams&bennett 18" fajen thumbhole. 200yards around 2 to3" groups with a harris bipod at picnic table, shoot all day for a few bucks.150yard squirrel neck shot. Alot of drop though I'd suggest a tactical solutions 15moa base I don't have one but alot of hold over.