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<blockquote data-quote="justgoto" data-source="post: 416329" data-attributes="member: 17125"><p>Starts with the loads.</p><p></p><p>"above average accuracy" is a subjective term. From .5moa to 2moa is probably what "average" hunters shoot. Average for this site would be .05 to .4moa. I get .75moa at 100 yards with my US model of 1917 Eddystone with a shot-out barrel, that might be "average?"</p><p></p><p>I am convinced that most barrels if not flawed in some way will shoot better than average. I get .3moa at 100 yards with my 30 year old lever action 30-30 using Hornady 150gr SSTs and a $50 scope. I get about the same using the sporterized 03 in the picture of my signature; using the peep sight; (and that rifle is bedded with varnish.) My new Howa I'll get somewhat smaller groups but I think my skill is .2-.3moa at 100 yards anyway. Heck, I've got 6 inch groups at 300 yards with my 357 8" barrel, using iron sights.</p><p></p><p>The pistol had a trigger job, and the 03, just looks like a reasonably competent chop job, some cosmetic work on the bolt, and the Lyman sight.</p><p></p><p>The only thing I've customized on my own is my loads, and my budget only includes average Joe type hand-loading.</p><p></p><p>I bought the Howa to customize when I actually get a budget. Before I bought it I asked here if it could be easily re-barreled; I got an affirmative.</p><p></p><p>It was free floated with a Hogue overmolded stock, an adjustable trigger, a $150 scope that came with it, had a fairly good reputation; and the best thing, it cost $450!</p><p>When my budget comes in, I want a longer barrel for greater velocity, and a better scope, maybe in the $600 range. I'll expect my long range shots to improve.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, "above average accuracy for long range hunting" starts with the marksman. I know my rifles shoot better than I do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="justgoto, post: 416329, member: 17125"] Starts with the loads. "above average accuracy" is a subjective term. From .5moa to 2moa is probably what "average" hunters shoot. Average for this site would be .05 to .4moa. I get .75moa at 100 yards with my US model of 1917 Eddystone with a shot-out barrel, that might be "average?" I am convinced that most barrels if not flawed in some way will shoot better than average. I get .3moa at 100 yards with my 30 year old lever action 30-30 using Hornady 150gr SSTs and a $50 scope. I get about the same using the sporterized 03 in the picture of my signature; using the peep sight; (and that rifle is bedded with varnish.) My new Howa I'll get somewhat smaller groups but I think my skill is .2-.3moa at 100 yards anyway. Heck, I've got 6 inch groups at 300 yards with my 357 8" barrel, using iron sights. The pistol had a trigger job, and the 03, just looks like a reasonably competent chop job, some cosmetic work on the bolt, and the Lyman sight. The only thing I've customized on my own is my loads, and my budget only includes average Joe type hand-loading. I bought the Howa to customize when I actually get a budget. Before I bought it I asked here if it could be easily re-barreled; I got an affirmative. It was free floated with a Hogue overmolded stock, an adjustable trigger, a $150 scope that came with it, had a fairly good reputation; and the best thing, it cost $450! When my budget comes in, I want a longer barrel for greater velocity, and a better scope, maybe in the $600 range. I'll expect my long range shots to improve. Having said that, "above average accuracy for long range hunting" starts with the marksman. I know my rifles shoot better than I do. [/QUOTE]
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