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<blockquote data-quote="tomsd" data-source="post: 893750" data-attributes="member: 74603"><p>KB et al: About 20 years ago - I was a Commercial Real Estate Broker for a guy here in SD who built many Apartment Buildings and he had more than a dozen trips to Africa and had Lions, Giant Eland, Zebra, whatnot - mounted in his big office. He hated the Weatherby waaaay back when - 60's and 70's - especially as it was really too fast in some situations for the bullets they had - which would just break apart.</p><p></p><p>Now - with the better/stronger/better combo/cast bullets - it could be a very interesting choice.</p><p></p><p>And a friend of mine back in Oregon did have the .340 WBY (and yes - the highest Caliber offered in the gun store add was the .338 Winchester) - along with a small arsenal - including a .30 in .300 Mag. He used to take the WBY with him when logging in Oregon - and set up a smallish - one gallon - paint can across 700 to 1,000 yard canyons, and he could hit them just about all the time he said. </p><p></p><p>He thought that was just fine if he came across a big elk - and he did drop a nice one - which is mounted in his living room. It was "only" a 5 x 5 but with a very nice basket - which weighed out to about 650 lbs - so it was probably more Roosevelt sub-species than Rocky Mountain Elk - although they do cross breed in some places in Oregon. The critter was going away - slightly under him - at about 700 yards - and it dropped right away - having been shot through the neck.</p><p></p><p>And yes, the WBY shells look like they could hold a ton of powder - and for under $600 - and a guarantee of sub-MOA - it could be a very interesting rifle to hone in.</p><p></p><p>I haven't yet really futzed with my 4x4 Mossberg - just took it to an indoor range - and it seemed to be shooting about an inch and a half equivalent (little under an inch at 50 yards) - with the first half of a box of standard/Winchester Core-lokt? 180 grain bullets - and will start shooting it more to see if it can find something off the shelf it likes better - and then start to "lean" on a friend of mine to cook up a few handloads. </p><p></p><p>Before I bought it - I had called the Mossberg factory rep repeatedly to ask about accuracy - and he said they had some of them shooting under an inch (again - it has an Accu-like trigger - they knocked off - or copied/licensed from Savage - as did Ruger, etc) - and if I didn't like it - he said send it in and they would re-barrel.</p><p></p><p>With the 2" muzzle brake - beyond the 24" barrel - the 4x4 Mossberg shoots very softly - and I think I mentioned my buddy said it felt like his Ruger .308 - that he really has dialed in to under half an inch. He's got a bad shoulder - and had to sell his 7 Mag - that he also loved and had dialed in nicely.</p><p></p><p>So - time will tell if my "cheapie" Mossie can reach out there - and again - if not - it's good enuff to "abuse" in thick woods (the type of stuff I grew up hunting in) - and with all the great advice in here - will try something else out for a truly long range rifle. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Thanks again all. </p><p></p><p>Tom</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tomsd, post: 893750, member: 74603"] KB et al: About 20 years ago - I was a Commercial Real Estate Broker for a guy here in SD who built many Apartment Buildings and he had more than a dozen trips to Africa and had Lions, Giant Eland, Zebra, whatnot - mounted in his big office. He hated the Weatherby waaaay back when - 60's and 70's - especially as it was really too fast in some situations for the bullets they had - which would just break apart. Now - with the better/stronger/better combo/cast bullets - it could be a very interesting choice. And a friend of mine back in Oregon did have the .340 WBY (and yes - the highest Caliber offered in the gun store add was the .338 Winchester) - along with a small arsenal - including a .30 in .300 Mag. He used to take the WBY with him when logging in Oregon - and set up a smallish - one gallon - paint can across 700 to 1,000 yard canyons, and he could hit them just about all the time he said. He thought that was just fine if he came across a big elk - and he did drop a nice one - which is mounted in his living room. It was "only" a 5 x 5 but with a very nice basket - which weighed out to about 650 lbs - so it was probably more Roosevelt sub-species than Rocky Mountain Elk - although they do cross breed in some places in Oregon. The critter was going away - slightly under him - at about 700 yards - and it dropped right away - having been shot through the neck. And yes, the WBY shells look like they could hold a ton of powder - and for under $600 - and a guarantee of sub-MOA - it could be a very interesting rifle to hone in. I haven't yet really futzed with my 4x4 Mossberg - just took it to an indoor range - and it seemed to be shooting about an inch and a half equivalent (little under an inch at 50 yards) - with the first half of a box of standard/Winchester Core-lokt? 180 grain bullets - and will start shooting it more to see if it can find something off the shelf it likes better - and then start to "lean" on a friend of mine to cook up a few handloads. Before I bought it - I had called the Mossberg factory rep repeatedly to ask about accuracy - and he said they had some of them shooting under an inch (again - it has an Accu-like trigger - they knocked off - or copied/licensed from Savage - as did Ruger, etc) - and if I didn't like it - he said send it in and they would re-barrel. With the 2" muzzle brake - beyond the 24" barrel - the 4x4 Mossberg shoots very softly - and I think I mentioned my buddy said it felt like his Ruger .308 - that he really has dialed in to under half an inch. He's got a bad shoulder - and had to sell his 7 Mag - that he also loved and had dialed in nicely. So - time will tell if my "cheapie" Mossie can reach out there - and again - if not - it's good enuff to "abuse" in thick woods (the type of stuff I grew up hunting in) - and with all the great advice in here - will try something else out for a truly long range rifle. :) Thanks again all. Tom [/QUOTE]
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