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The Basics, Starting Out
What it takes to get to 800 yards
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<blockquote data-quote="Kennibear" data-source="post: 892769" data-attributes="member: 51650"><p>tomsd</p><p></p><p>There are hunters on this website who use a 308 Win for LR hunting. The aught-six is good for another 100fps but it is not a 300 WinMag. Same reloading techniques that get the 30-06 more work on the 300 WinMag too.</p><p></p><p>I was reflecting the other day that I've killed more deer with one gun in the safe than all the others combined. Not because of choice but more circumstance. It's my S&W M28 357. Muzzle energy is 700ftlbs. Dad was right, when you have to poop in the woods, that's when the deer show up. But I was hunting with a rifle. Here's my point: if you ask a handgun hunter they will tell you 700-800ftlbs is plenty for elk because they start with a 44 Mag and that is the 100yd energy. We have people writing that the ethical threshhold of energy is "blank" amount. IMHO it's where the bullet hits. Your real limit is your ability to put the bullet where you intended. For the record, one shot each w/ the M28 and I use cast bullets w/ zero expansion. It does not meet the criteria for most people. But it works for me.</p><p></p><p>I have a very long 27" barrel on my 30-06 and get 2900fps with 180gr SpBT's. The powder is 4350 and newer powders will deliver more. My son's 300 WinMag gets 2950fps with a 200gr SpBT. The Barnes LRX and new Nosler LRAB will help a bunch. Berger has started the trend towards LR Game bullets and a lot of hunters have them dialed in so you will find a good load for them. So in answer to your question, Yes, with the right loads the 30-06 reaches way out there.</p><p></p><p>But the bigger part of the answer is, if you can.</p><p></p><p>KB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kennibear, post: 892769, member: 51650"] tomsd There are hunters on this website who use a 308 Win for LR hunting. The aught-six is good for another 100fps but it is not a 300 WinMag. Same reloading techniques that get the 30-06 more work on the 300 WinMag too. I was reflecting the other day that I've killed more deer with one gun in the safe than all the others combined. Not because of choice but more circumstance. It's my S&W M28 357. Muzzle energy is 700ftlbs. Dad was right, when you have to poop in the woods, that's when the deer show up. But I was hunting with a rifle. Here's my point: if you ask a handgun hunter they will tell you 700-800ftlbs is plenty for elk because they start with a 44 Mag and that is the 100yd energy. We have people writing that the ethical threshhold of energy is "blank" amount. IMHO it's where the bullet hits. Your real limit is your ability to put the bullet where you intended. For the record, one shot each w/ the M28 and I use cast bullets w/ zero expansion. It does not meet the criteria for most people. But it works for me. I have a very long 27" barrel on my 30-06 and get 2900fps with 180gr SpBT's. The powder is 4350 and newer powders will deliver more. My son's 300 WinMag gets 2950fps with a 200gr SpBT. The Barnes LRX and new Nosler LRAB will help a bunch. Berger has started the trend towards LR Game bullets and a lot of hunters have them dialed in so you will find a good load for them. So in answer to your question, Yes, with the right loads the 30-06 reaches way out there. But the bigger part of the answer is, if you can. KB [/QUOTE]
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