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<blockquote data-quote="Mikecr" data-source="post: 701891" data-attributes="member: 1521">Well I don&#039;t know how many artillerymen are hitting groundhogs(peeking over grass) at 500+ with THIS system.IMO, all the twiddling with a Mildot Master &amp; use of FFP scopes isn&#039;t gonna help, cuz it isn&#039;t precise enough ranging, &#039;doping&#039;, dialing, or holding-off. Let&#039;s get to what a MIL is -in the field,, compared to MOA, and IPHY, for the American HUNTER:6283.185 Mils/circle ([2*Pi]*1000)While an MOA is 21,600 Mins/circle (360deg*60min/deg)21600/6283.185= 3.437747 MOAs/MILAn MOA=1.047198 IPHY, so 3.437747*1.047198= 3.6 INCHES/MIL/100yds (3.6 IPHY)1MIL= ~3.438 MOA1MIL= 3.6 IPHY.1MIL=.36 IPHY,&nbsp; 1/4MOA =.26 IPHY,&nbsp; .25 IPHY =Just that1/8MOA =.13 IPHYMaybe it&#039;s a different thread, but IMO the FFP scopes &amp; the standard target sizes their ranging is based on, pales in precision to laser ranging, SFP scopes w/med-fine CHs(or finer), and 1/4moa dialing(or finer) in the field.&nbsp; This side of armageddon, it makes sense to change batteries once in a while, for the accuracy, just as it makes sense that our military would embrace smart weapon precision of late.Eventually(I don&#039;t know what&#039;s takin so long), we&#039;ll have micrometer side focus w/a focus prism on the reticle plane, and LRFs will fade away.We won&#039;t need batteries to range, and of course we still will not need MILs.But for some reason, it will be just as hard to convince..............</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mikecr, post: 701891, member: 1521"] Well I don't know how many artillerymen are hitting groundhogs(peeking over grass) at 500+ with THIS system. IMO, all the twiddling with a Mildot Master & use of FFP scopes isn't gonna help, cuz it isn't precise enough ranging, 'doping', dialing, or holding-off. Let's get to what a MIL is -in the field,, compared to MOA, and IPHY, for the American HUNTER: 6283.185 Mils/circle ([2*Pi]*1000) While an MOA is 21,600 Mins/circle (360deg*60min/deg) 21600/6283.185= 3.437747 MOAs/MIL An MOA=1.047198 IPHY, so 3.437747*1.047198= 3.6 INCHES/MIL/100yds (3.6 IPHY) 1MIL= ~3.438 MOA 1MIL= 3.6 IPHY .1MIL=.36 IPHY, 1/4MOA =.26 IPHY, .25 IPHY =Just that 1/8MOA =.13 IPHY Maybe it's a different thread, but IMO the FFP scopes & the standard target sizes their ranging is based on, pales in precision to laser ranging, SFP scopes w/med-fine CHs(or finer), and 1/4moa dialing(or finer) in the field. This side of armageddon, it makes sense to change batteries once in a while, for the accuracy, just as it makes sense that our military would embrace smart weapon precision of late. Eventually(I don't know what's takin so long), we'll have micrometer side focus w/a focus prism on the reticle plane, and LRFs will fade away. We won't need batteries to range, and of course we still will not need MILs. But for some reason, it will be just as hard to convince.............. [/QUOTE]

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