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What is a good group? Really???
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<blockquote data-quote="Brent" data-source="post: 31806" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>I understand the subjectiveness, and where you're coming from, and it's probably more valuable as to progress than what is "good" IMHO. </p><p></p><p>I don't think what is good is subjective at all though, it's pretty well a fact what is good at 1000 BR, and BR... no subjectivity about it, you're either competitive or you are not. I really don't think from that perspective we are in disagreement either?? </p><p></p><p>A gun that shoots in the 2's, maybe low 3's would be great "to me". When mine shoots in the 2's and 3's I'm happy, 4's is ok but lacking something. Very leathal, but still lacking from where I could be. That's three shots at 300yds, and shot more times than 5 groups to really verify it, and never exceeding those numbers, NOT AN AVERAGE group size. I don't do averages on groups, I need to have a guarantee on what to count on, and if it's .4 or .5 or .7, that's what it is. Change something to lower it, or account for it.</p><p></p><p>I would expect more from a BR rig beacuase it uses a heavier barrel that should put 5 or more in the same group, the same size because it's more temp stable, and no other reason. It's my opinion, that with three shots from each, you should not be able to tell the difference between a heavy gun, and a tactical/custom hunting rig.</p><p></p><p>.6 - .7 MOA for a standard factory stick is good, and in my book, isn't worth any more foolin around with to get better. Big 30 cal's that is. .4 - .5 for the smaller stuff and I'm done and happy.</p><p></p><p>my 2</p><p></p><p>[ 02-23-2004: Message edited by: Brent ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brent, post: 31806, member: 99"] I understand the subjectiveness, and where you're coming from, and it's probably more valuable as to progress than what is "good" IMHO. I don't think what is good is subjective at all though, it's pretty well a fact what is good at 1000 BR, and BR... no subjectivity about it, you're either competitive or you are not. I really don't think from that perspective we are in disagreement either?? A gun that shoots in the 2's, maybe low 3's would be great "to me". When mine shoots in the 2's and 3's I'm happy, 4's is ok but lacking something. Very leathal, but still lacking from where I could be. That's three shots at 300yds, and shot more times than 5 groups to really verify it, and never exceeding those numbers, NOT AN AVERAGE group size. I don't do averages on groups, I need to have a guarantee on what to count on, and if it's .4 or .5 or .7, that's what it is. Change something to lower it, or account for it. I would expect more from a BR rig beacuase it uses a heavier barrel that should put 5 or more in the same group, the same size because it's more temp stable, and no other reason. It's my opinion, that with three shots from each, you should not be able to tell the difference between a heavy gun, and a tactical/custom hunting rig. .6 - .7 MOA for a standard factory stick is good, and in my book, isn't worth any more foolin around with to get better. Big 30 cal's that is. .4 - .5 for the smaller stuff and I'm done and happy. my 2 [ 02-23-2004: Message edited by: Brent ] [/QUOTE]
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