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What first? Powder or seating depth?
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<blockquote data-quote="rscott5028" data-source="post: 557544" data-attributes="member: 24624"><p>Fitch,</p><p> </p><p>I'm sorry. But with all due respect to a fellow enthusiast who indeed may be a better reloader/shooter than me, I have to call BS. </p><p> </p><p>You're seating bullets .020" off the lands because you're afraid the variance in a box might cause one to touch and create a pressure spike... What kind of crappy bullets and seating die are you using? Try sorting them and get a seater that works off the ogive rather than the tip. </p><p> </p><p>Then, you're indicating that measuring COAL to the tip is sufficent when the ogive measurement will most likely be much more consistent given that meplats are rarely uniform. ...yet, it's not the meplat that engages the lands and causes pressure spikes. </p><p> </p><p>Besides... the seater die should be seating your bullets according to the ogive near a datum line that approximates the ID of your lands rather than the working off the meplat. This completely negates any variance in the length of the boat tail and shank. So, they should be pretty consistent to less than .001" relative to the lands provided that your brass fits correctly in the chamber and bolt face. </p><p> </p><p>Well, at least you did qualify all that and say that it's probably not worth splitting hairs over and worrying about. And, to that extent you are totally correct provided that you work up a safe and accurate load in your rifle. In other words, you don't have to have a precise and accurate measurement of any/every bullet. Because the seater will make them consistent enough that you should be able to attain good accuracy. </p><p> </p><p>So I was going to passively sit by until, you said that straightening your cartridge by bending your necks when they come out all caddiewampus would help accuracy. To wit, I say nonsense. There are plenty of threads here by guys that really know their stuff that explain why it doesn't work that way. </p><p> </p><p>Even though there are some here who think it helps, there's no need for it if you create straight cartridges to begin with. </p><p> </p><p>Sorry to sound so harsh. But, I felt I had to make a statement so that Goofycat and others can cogitate on it a little more, research it, and decide for themselves rather than take one person's opinion. </p><p> </p><p>thanks,</p><p>richard</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rscott5028, post: 557544, member: 24624"] Fitch, I'm sorry. But with all due respect to a fellow enthusiast who indeed may be a better reloader/shooter than me, I have to call BS. You're seating bullets .020" off the lands because you're afraid the variance in a box might cause one to touch and create a pressure spike... What kind of crappy bullets and seating die are you using? Try sorting them and get a seater that works off the ogive rather than the tip. Then, you're indicating that measuring COAL to the tip is sufficent when the ogive measurement will most likely be much more consistent given that meplats are rarely uniform. ...yet, it's not the meplat that engages the lands and causes pressure spikes. Besides... the seater die should be seating your bullets according to the ogive near a datum line that approximates the ID of your lands rather than the working off the meplat. This completely negates any variance in the length of the boat tail and shank. So, they should be pretty consistent to less than .001" relative to the lands provided that your brass fits correctly in the chamber and bolt face. Well, at least you did qualify all that and say that it's probably not worth splitting hairs over and worrying about. And, to that extent you are totally correct provided that you work up a safe and accurate load in your rifle. In other words, you don't have to have a precise and accurate measurement of any/every bullet. Because the seater will make them consistent enough that you should be able to attain good accuracy. So I was going to passively sit by until, you said that straightening your cartridge by bending your necks when they come out all caddiewampus would help accuracy. To wit, I say nonsense. There are plenty of threads here by guys that really know their stuff that explain why it doesn't work that way. Even though there are some here who think it helps, there's no need for it if you create straight cartridges to begin with. Sorry to sound so harsh. But, I felt I had to make a statement so that Goofycat and others can cogitate on it a little more, research it, and decide for themselves rather than take one person's opinion. thanks, richard [/QUOTE]
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