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What do you consider good groups?
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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 46119" data-source="post: 1126810"><p>++ What JE said.</p><p></p><p>For me "good groups" are what is needed for the task at hand.</p><p></p><p>Anytime I'm shooting paper I desire sub 1 MOA for scoped rifles and open sights sub 2 MOA is ok.</p><p></p><p>The philosophy of tighter is better is a goal not an absolute. I have achieved .15 MAO for a BR rifle. .375 for a hunting rifle.</p><p></p><p>If you<strong> have confidence in what your rifle will do with each shot</strong> then you will be in the game.</p><p></p><p>In example: </p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">With a hunting rifle: If you know your dirty cold bore shot will be .75 MAO high and .25 MOA left from shot 2 or 3, <strong>sight your rifle for dirty cold bore</strong>. Practice dirty cold bore. Shoot your long range shot for dirty cold bore. If a follow up shot is required, adjust accordingly.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">With a "target" rifle: If you know your cold bore POI is different (dirty or clean) from your dirty warm bore, sight your rifle for dirty warm bore.</li> </ul><p>If the hunting rifle and target rifle is one and the same then your "zero" will be different depending on the season/use. It is possible to "map" the bore and have a table of adjustments.</p><p></p><p>Hunting is always <strong>dirty cold bore</strong>. Practice and sight for dirty cold bore.</p><p>Target/tactical/range entertainment time is usually <strong>dirty warm bore</strong>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 46119, post: 1126810"] ++ What JE said. For me "good groups" are what is needed for the task at hand. Anytime I'm shooting paper I desire sub 1 MOA for scoped rifles and open sights sub 2 MOA is ok. The philosophy of tighter is better is a goal not an absolute. I have achieved .15 MAO for a BR rifle. .375 for a hunting rifle. If you[B] have confidence in what your rifle will do with each shot[/B] then you will be in the game. In example: [LIST] [*]With a hunting rifle: If you know your dirty cold bore shot will be .75 MAO high and .25 MOA left from shot 2 or 3, [B]sight your rifle for dirty cold bore[/B]. Practice dirty cold bore. Shoot your long range shot for dirty cold bore. If a follow up shot is required, adjust accordingly. [*]With a "target" rifle: If you know your cold bore POI is different (dirty or clean) from your dirty warm bore, sight your rifle for dirty warm bore. [/LIST] If the hunting rifle and target rifle is one and the same then your "zero" will be different depending on the season/use. It is possible to "map" the bore and have a table of adjustments. Hunting is always [B]dirty cold bore[/B]. Practice and sight for dirty cold bore. Target/tactical/range entertainment time is usually [B]dirty warm bore[/B]. [/QUOTE]
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