What caliber for really accurate shooting.

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by HuntFarther, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. HuntFarther

    HuntFarther Well-Known Member

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    I want to hear what you would build to shoot really accurate out to 1000 but maybe to the end of the flight path. I am not looking for a elk rifle just something that would shoot tremendous easily. I want something like a sender weight gun. Would you go custom action, or a honest trued Remington if you have it? I would do a long action.
    What length barrel?
    Scope? I am thinking the 8-32 nightforce with a 20 or 30 moa base. 65 moa is still a lot.
    The biggest is what caliber, I am not thinking anything to high performance and something that would just lay there when fired. Would like fairly long barrel life. The caliber I am thinking is a 243win or Ackley with a 7.5 barrel to shoot the 115 berger. I have seen a few Ackley shoot that bullet at 3100 with a 27" barrel.
    I would put a brake on it maybe just a vias or a side port.

    So guys in the long range that has a rig like I am talking about what do you have?
     
  2. WildRose

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    Since we're just dreaming here... .

    I'd use the Montana action and build it in 300 Lapua.

    I'd put a sendero tapered barrel but carry it on out to 30" to finish at around .750.

    It'd be a 3 groove progressive twist ending in a 1:10 for maximum velocity and accuracy.

    I'd finish it with one of Kirby's muzzle brakes, or another Snowy Mountain Rifle's brake since I have several of them already.

    It would of course all be stainless and cerakoted probably in tan/sand.

    I'd build it on a Precision Rifle stocks hunting stock or maybe an A3 Hunter McMillan with the lightest kevlar/epoxy fill they have.

    Shooting the heaviest 30 cal VLD/hunting bullets out there it should make for a 1,500yds monster killer.

    There are too many things that can change down range for me to think shooting game beyond that range is responsible due to the flight time. An animal can move a long way, or another can move into the line of flight unintended, very easily when flight time exceeds 1 second.
     

  3. WildRose

    WildRose Well-Known Member

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    Take a hard look at the 6mm Rem and 6mm x 284 if you want to go with the 6mm bullets. I knew a guy shooting the 6-284 as a deer and varmint gun and it was amazing to 600yds even on running yotes and out to 800 on prairie dogs.
     
  4. MMERSS

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    308 Win target rifle. This may sound bland to the LR hunting community but if you can come to shoot the 308 very well at 1000, how would stepping up to a magnum just as precise perform when needed for hunting? 80%+ of my LR practice is conducted with the 308 year round. Of course anything well past 1000 requires the magnums and sanity check.
     
  5. WildRose

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    For deer sized game and smaller the .308 will get it done at that range.

    It's way under powered though for larger game beyond about 750. You would really have to be extremely precise on say an Elk and really pick your shot to punch the heart or top of the heart/bottom of lungs to avoid doing a lot of tracking beyond that range.

    Move up to the 300WM though and you got'r made.
     
  6. MMERSS

    MMERSS Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely the 308 should not be considered an acceptable LR big game hunting choice however this makes an excellent practice choice on paper up to and at times beyond 1000. 308 for practice (MR hunting) then transition to the magnums for LR hunting and ELR practice/hunting.
     
  7. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    I've been thinking along the lines of a 6x47 Lapua pushing the 105 or 115 Berger may be a very interesting build, it should be absolutely sweet shooting but still bring some performance, shoot the bugger till the bullet falls from the sky and shoot it a lot! I LOVE the little 6 Br, I was spotting for Broz one day at 860 yards and he was wailing on a 8in steel and it just sets there and you can crank rounds down range and just have a blast shooting!
     
  8. Derek M.

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    Well, you say you'd use a long action, then your first choice mentioned is a 243. That doesn't make sense to me.

    Anyway, I'd take a close look at 260AI

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciMrgy-v90A"]260 Ackley Improved for Benchrest - YouTube[/ame]
     
  9. Derek M.

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    25.5" barrel, 8T, definitely a custom action, BAT no doubt. Lapua cases of course, and don't forget Fed 210M primers.
     
  10. Derek M.

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    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtciJpppHto"]260 Ackley Improved at 800 yards - YouTube[/ame]
     
  11. WildRose

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    That's why I built an LR 260. You should see the surprise in a coyote's eyes when the 130gr Sirocco hits them at a half mile or more LOLgun)
     
  12. Topshot

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    A straight .284 Winchester with a throat set up to shoot the 168 to 180gn bullets.
    This is now the leading cartridge in World F-Class.
    It ticks all your boxes.
    Long barrel life.
    Best balance of recoil, velocity and BC.
    Accuracy can not be beat or other calibres would be number 1 in this field.
    Excellent out to 1200 yards.
     
  13. cblackwell

    cblackwell Well-Known Member

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    In short action I would also go 6x47 lapua. long action the 260AI wins
     
  14. FEENIX

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    +1, esp when ...

    ... is a criteria/requirement. Also have a very good case volume to bore area ratio (751 overbore index chart).

    Good luck!