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What caliber 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag
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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 502419" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>NZLongranger, please do not quit this thread. I think all are learning quite a bit from your input. Believe me I am not attacking you in any way just stating general terms. This is a great thread discussing both these cartridges. In general terms I think we are in agreement here but to answer your quotes.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>First off let me say I was thinking more outside the box of match bullets and considering more a hunting situation on large big game animals in general. For example take the 177 GS bullet at 3200 fps out to 800 yards and beat it with a 7mm remington. The 180 grain CE bullet at 3150 fps out of the 300 winchester vs the 170 CE bullet at 2950 fps out of a 7mm remington. Run the ballistics to 800 yards. Those velocities are what my rifles shoot those weight bullets at. I am sure others get similar or some a little different results.</p><p> </p><p>My point is within the 800 yard or so best effective range we agree on of these two cartridges the ballistics are a wash and there is no advantage there as far as accuracy with the 180 berger or the 210 berger. But the larger caliber heavier bullet wins within that range in my opinion from a hunting standpoint.</p><p> </p><p>The 300 winchester will shoot the 208-210 bullets slightly faster than the 7mm remington will shoot the 180 from my experience. Not enough to give either a ballistic advantage. At 800 yards the slight fps advantage equals out the slight bc advantage of the 7mm. Giving neither a ballistic advantage that I can see as far as accuracy within either cartridge's 800 yard optimum. Others may get different results than my guns shoot but that is straight apples to apples with my guns. They are really just to close to call there and splitting hairs to fine for me to make judgement. But the larger caliber 210 grain wins in hunting in my opinion.</p><p> </p><p>This has been fun and I have enjoyed it. Show me your best ballistics loads for your 7mm remington out to 800 yards and I will put some of my best for both my 7mm remington and 300 winchester. I shoot both and clobber stuff with both of them. I just use the 300 winchester for large big game because of the heavier larger caliber bulets with basically the same ballistics as the smaller lighter 7mms. Heck I will even throw in my best hunting load for my 7mm JRS and 280 AI. I really like those also. Also for my 7mm STW's which I realy like. I'm really not that picky.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 502419, member: 505"] NZLongranger, please do not quit this thread. I think all are learning quite a bit from your input. Believe me I am not attacking you in any way just stating general terms. This is a great thread discussing both these cartridges. In general terms I think we are in agreement here but to answer your quotes. First off let me say I was thinking more outside the box of match bullets and considering more a hunting situation on large big game animals in general. For example take the 177 GS bullet at 3200 fps out to 800 yards and beat it with a 7mm remington. The 180 grain CE bullet at 3150 fps out of the 300 winchester vs the 170 CE bullet at 2950 fps out of a 7mm remington. Run the ballistics to 800 yards. Those velocities are what my rifles shoot those weight bullets at. I am sure others get similar or some a little different results. My point is within the 800 yard or so best effective range we agree on of these two cartridges the ballistics are a wash and there is no advantage there as far as accuracy with the 180 berger or the 210 berger. But the larger caliber heavier bullet wins within that range in my opinion from a hunting standpoint. The 300 winchester will shoot the 208-210 bullets slightly faster than the 7mm remington will shoot the 180 from my experience. Not enough to give either a ballistic advantage. At 800 yards the slight fps advantage equals out the slight bc advantage of the 7mm. Giving neither a ballistic advantage that I can see as far as accuracy within either cartridge's 800 yard optimum. Others may get different results than my guns shoot but that is straight apples to apples with my guns. They are really just to close to call there and splitting hairs to fine for me to make judgement. But the larger caliber 210 grain wins in hunting in my opinion. This has been fun and I have enjoyed it. Show me your best ballistics loads for your 7mm remington out to 800 yards and I will put some of my best for both my 7mm remington and 300 winchester. I shoot both and clobber stuff with both of them. I just use the 300 winchester for large big game because of the heavier larger caliber bulets with basically the same ballistics as the smaller lighter 7mms. Heck I will even throw in my best hunting load for my 7mm JRS and 280 AI. I really like those also. Also for my 7mm STW's which I realy like. I'm really not that picky. [/QUOTE]
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