What bullets in .300RUM or .280AI for coyotes and minimal pelt damage?

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  1. Troutslayer2

    Troutslayer2 Well-Known Member

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    I don't really have a coyote specific weapon but I'd like to work up a load in either .300RUM or .280AI that will blow right through them, or not exit at all. Is this realistic to achieve? I need it to be good in cold weather. If you've got a recipe that's accurate, I'm all ears.
     
  2. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    I would use a high density bullet loaded at a low velocity for either caliber. On the other end of the spectrum use a varmint bullet and push it hard so that it expands in the body cavity with no exit. It's going to have to be a trial and error process. I know others will chime in with better ideas that use the calibers.

    Tank
     

  3. budlight

    budlight Well-Known Member

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    I'm a .277 man. Sierra used to sell hard copper HPBT's 140's for 277 and 160's for 284. we used to use them on 1/2 inch steel swinging targets and those hard copper rounds would punch right through the steel at up to 200 yards. So I started using them on Yotes to get the prime winter pelts. all it would leave is a little hole.

    Now I use 140's or 150's in my 277 Sierra game king spbt loaded up near max speed. Small animals or even deer on classic broad side a heart lung shot goes through so fast that it doesn't even expand

    for your 30 cal I would look into Full Metal Jacket bullets. I've only seen them around 150 gr but they also have no expansion.
     
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  4. sdbm4

    sdbm4 New Member

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    Not sure about your 280 ai but i have had experience shooting 180 gr swift scirroco and 168 barnes tts out of 300 rum on caribou and both had massive exit wounds even past 350 yards. Thats a lot of gun for yotes but i see your thought about the ranges that it will reach. gun)
     
  5. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Just a thought. Don't know if you have seen the video or not, but John Burns I believe it was shot a yote at 1017 with a 243 using 107SMK's. Why not just buy a rifle to fit the game you are hunting with an appropriate caliber. If money is the issue then I understand completely. :cool:

    Tank
     
  6. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    I generally agree here. Get yourself a nonexpanding bullet and push it fast.
     
  7. screech

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    you guys must have some serious pansy coyotes. I hit them with a 7stw with a 162gr. amax, blows a 6inch exit hole and still have some running up to 50-100yrds with chest hits???? I tried the normal coyote rounds, 22-250, 243, 204 etc and they always left me watching at least one or tow coyotes a year hitting the ground then jumping up and running 5-600yards further to the timber.

    Of course I also shot a fox with a 22-250 shooting 50gr.ballistic tip's and it took one shot hit the ground then it too started running off and took a folow up shot.
     
  8. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    He's trying to preserve the pelts. A 6" inch hole on the off side won't do.

    Tank
     
  9. screech

    screech Well-Known Member

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    lil tank, I understand but i I have a even harder time skinning a coyote that I cant find than a coyote with a 6inch hole that I did.
     
  10. rscott5028

    rscott5028 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't used these, but Norma makes FMJ for both 7mm and 30 cal.

    Or, you could try Barnes with an anticipated impact velocity below 1900 fps to minimize expansion.

    Of course, minimizing damage suggests that you may increase the likelihood of having to do some tracking.

    Let us know how it turns out.

    --Richard
     
  11. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    HEADSHOTS! No tracking necessary!

    Tank
     
  12. rscott5028

    rscott5028 Well-Known Member

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    Better yet, headshot with a 6inch hole just below the tail.

    Then, you just peel the pelt off like a sock.

    :D
     
  13. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    LOL! :Dgun)