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What’s up with Hornady’s reloading podcast?
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<blockquote data-quote="QuietTexan" data-source="post: 3082645" data-attributes="member: 116181"><p>Big Green has abandoned many more cases than Big Red IMO. It's not a new thing in the industry to have orphaned cartridges - SAUMs are a prime example.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that's really the part that upsets people the most. No these CMs and PRCs are not anything unique or magical. But there comes a time where there's no way to keep even minor changes (much less advancements) backwards-compatible. Why not get a new SAAMI approval? The movement towards seating bullets longer has put classic designs like 300 WM and 7 RM at a disadvantage because of maintaining compatibility with their 50+ year old approved specs..... <em>for factory produced rifles and ammunition.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes sir, the point in italics above is my concurrence with what you said here. 100% agree that handloaders and reamer makers can make classic designs run just as good if not better as newer designs. Once we departs from SAAMI-compatibility it's a fully open race, and some of the oldest cases yield nothing to newer designs.</p><p></p><p>But the majority of shooters won't ever get a non-SAAMI anything, and even if they stumble into re-barreling or having a rifle built only a small number will actually get in deep enough to care about the nuances of chamber design. We're the oddballs in this world, and not Big Red's target consumer <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /></p><p></p><p>I do think it's a bit odd that Big Red gets such a bad rap for their marketing working on the rubes, but marketing still does work on us nut jobs... companies like Hammer, Sherman Wildcats, Alpha Brass, etc. They rake sure it in off of us. Main difference is we justify their marketing working on us by showing our personal results instead of restating claimed results from the companies like the rubes do... usually.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietTexan, post: 3082645, member: 116181"] Big Green has abandoned many more cases than Big Red IMO. It's not a new thing in the industry to have orphaned cartridges - SAUMs are a prime example. I think that's really the part that upsets people the most. No these CMs and PRCs are not anything unique or magical. But there comes a time where there's no way to keep even minor changes (much less advancements) backwards-compatible. Why not get a new SAAMI approval? The movement towards seating bullets longer has put classic designs like 300 WM and 7 RM at a disadvantage because of maintaining compatibility with their 50+ year old approved specs..... [I]for factory produced rifles and ammunition.[/I] Yes sir, the point in italics above is my concurrence with what you said here. 100% agree that handloaders and reamer makers can make classic designs run just as good if not better as newer designs. Once we departs from SAAMI-compatibility it's a fully open race, and some of the oldest cases yield nothing to newer designs. But the majority of shooters won't ever get a non-SAAMI anything, and even if they stumble into re-barreling or having a rifle built only a small number will actually get in deep enough to care about the nuances of chamber design. We're the oddballs in this world, and not Big Red's target consumer 😂 I do think it's a bit odd that Big Red gets such a bad rap for their marketing working on the rubes, but marketing still does work on us nut jobs... companies like Hammer, Sherman Wildcats, Alpha Brass, etc. They rake sure it in off of us. Main difference is we justify their marketing working on us by showing our personal results instead of restating claimed results from the companies like the rubes do... usually. [/QUOTE]
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