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Weatherby versus Kimber
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<blockquote data-quote="EZShooter" data-source="post: 97896" data-attributes="member: 5305"><p>Dasslp,</p><p></p><p>I can't speak to the accuracy of the Weatherby or Kimber (wish I could). The Remington's though, I can tell you about. I have a LVSF in 223, very nice gun, out of the box with an adjustment to the trigger only, I was shooting .6-.7 MOA with Berger 52 gr. Match HP's. Now, whether you want to shoot a 22-250 or the 223... I got the 223, as I figured if I can learn to dope wind with it I am in like Flynn on the other cartridges.... heheh. But, what you probably need to do for us is specify what kind of ranges you are going to shoot at, whether you are a red mist kinda guy or a pelt guy, etc. The 22-250 can do both, with good bullet selection, so far so so good... if you are looking at over 400 yards (this is long range hunting.com, remember) then you might want to go for a 6mm or 25 caliber... the key would be buying a rifle with a twist rate for the heavier for caliber bullets.... but this will also get you away from the red mist shooting (and depending on the weight of the gun, whether you can see your shot hit home or not). I am assuming here that you are saying $1000-1300 for just the rifle, just to be sure.</p><p></p><p>I like the Remington, insofar as there are a lot of gunsmiths that like to work on them, so when I shoot out the 223 barrel, well, I can go to other cartridges/calibers if I want, and get maybe some better accuracy to boot. I spent right at $800 on mine, but this is when they first came out, so they are a little cheaper now, I think.</p><p></p><p>One option you might want to check into, is a Cooper rifle, they are pretty sweet, and if you are like me, appreciate a fine wood stock, then all the better. This fits your budget on the lower end Cooper guns (which are plenty accurate - most I have seen are 1/4 to 1/2 MOA).</p><p></p><p>Another option would be to go for a Borden/Stiller/Nesika Bay action, and go the full custom route (much longer to get the rifle though /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif ). This gives you several advantages, as there is good resale on these rifles... you can get the action for app. $600, then go from there.... this would most likely go over your budget by a good bit though. With the right gunsmith, you might be able to scrounge something up close enough though.... the Borden Timberline/Alpine action looks good, and maybe you get this and a factory stock from someone that bought a McMillan or HS Precision, etc. Maybe a factory barrel from the same person that sells you the stock... could maybe get you there. I am no gunsmith, maybe FiftyDriver or Shawn C. will weigh in on this (kinda of thinking about going this way myself).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, hope this helps a little, I am sure that the other members will chime right in with good info as well.</p><p></p><p>EZ</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EZShooter, post: 97896, member: 5305"] Dasslp, I can't speak to the accuracy of the Weatherby or Kimber (wish I could). The Remington's though, I can tell you about. I have a LVSF in 223, very nice gun, out of the box with an adjustment to the trigger only, I was shooting .6-.7 MOA with Berger 52 gr. Match HP's. Now, whether you want to shoot a 22-250 or the 223... I got the 223, as I figured if I can learn to dope wind with it I am in like Flynn on the other cartridges.... heheh. But, what you probably need to do for us is specify what kind of ranges you are going to shoot at, whether you are a red mist kinda guy or a pelt guy, etc. The 22-250 can do both, with good bullet selection, so far so so good... if you are looking at over 400 yards (this is long range hunting.com, remember) then you might want to go for a 6mm or 25 caliber... the key would be buying a rifle with a twist rate for the heavier for caliber bullets.... but this will also get you away from the red mist shooting (and depending on the weight of the gun, whether you can see your shot hit home or not). I am assuming here that you are saying $1000-1300 for just the rifle, just to be sure. I like the Remington, insofar as there are a lot of gunsmiths that like to work on them, so when I shoot out the 223 barrel, well, I can go to other cartridges/calibers if I want, and get maybe some better accuracy to boot. I spent right at $800 on mine, but this is when they first came out, so they are a little cheaper now, I think. One option you might want to check into, is a Cooper rifle, they are pretty sweet, and if you are like me, appreciate a fine wood stock, then all the better. This fits your budget on the lower end Cooper guns (which are plenty accurate - most I have seen are 1/4 to 1/2 MOA). Another option would be to go for a Borden/Stiller/Nesika Bay action, and go the full custom route (much longer to get the rifle though [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ). This gives you several advantages, as there is good resale on these rifles... you can get the action for app. $600, then go from there.... this would most likely go over your budget by a good bit though. With the right gunsmith, you might be able to scrounge something up close enough though.... the Borden Timberline/Alpine action looks good, and maybe you get this and a factory stock from someone that bought a McMillan or HS Precision, etc. Maybe a factory barrel from the same person that sells you the stock... could maybe get you there. I am no gunsmith, maybe FiftyDriver or Shawn C. will weigh in on this (kinda of thinking about going this way myself). Anyway, hope this helps a little, I am sure that the other members will chime right in with good info as well. EZ [/QUOTE]
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