DC, thanks but I just struck a deal w/ 308 Hawg on hid 12-42x. For shooting smaller varmints I would rather have more magnification and not nee it than need it and don't have it. I realize mirage starts to play hell with lr varminting during the middle of the day, thats what my AR15 is for-After 300 yards though, out comes the land cannon 6-284 w/ 12-42x nightforce. Hopefully I'll like it as least as much as my 8.5x25 Leupold LR scope. It is really clear but the extra xxx makes me horny and Ithink I'll really like the NP1-RR reticle. If not I know I can get close to my money back on it. My next option would be to have premier reticles give me a power boost w/ a custom reticle matched to my ballistics.