I have recently purchased something I should have bought years ago. I have been in the market for a good hunting pack for my shooting gear, and was looking for a seperate high quality frame pack also when I stumbled upon a company called Eberlestock. They make a combo frame/hunting pack that is awesome! It is called the, "just one pack" or j104-5. It can be viewed at www.eberlestock.com under the backpack section. THis pack has it all: Internal frame A waterproof lined meat sack two pockets on each side for a large spotting scope two long pockets for tripods built in camelback pouch that is insulated and waterproof horizontal and vertical outside straps for tents, bags, or foam mats two top pockets for rangefinders/binos Key holder a way to attach a seperate accessory large freight pack tightening straps throughout similiar to ones found on pack frames padded waist band water resistant camo material with waterproof stitching straw clip for camelback optional attachment for a blaze orange rain guard/poncho Oh, and the coolest thing about it-a built in gun scabbard that totally protects the rifle from muzzle to butt pad! THis is one serious pack for the guy who likes to pack his whole camp into the wilderness in one trip. Uncle b and I each bought one for his wilderness Nevada mule deer hunt a few weeks ago and I don't know how we would have done it without them. We hiked 36.4 miles in five days with our packs weighing in at 58 pounds the first day to around 40 the last day. We had elevation gains and losses daily of 7500 feet. These packs held up the entire time and made the death march bearable. I had sore feet but not sore shoulders or a sore back! I even managed to fall in a river while crossing it in the dark and I landed right on the side of my pack carrying my Swaro 20-60x80 scope and it stayed dry and in one piece! My extra set of clothes inside also stayed dry. I wish I could say the same for the clothes I had on. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif THe packs are guaranteed for life and they have a great customer service department. On a scale of 1-10 I would give them an eleven! CHeck 'em out.