Varmint Gernade Splash Wounds

[1maxhunter]

Question.does any one think that bullet speed has much effect on these bullets? if pushed to fast are they blowing up more then if run a bit slower? i have to shoot these and am after critters now with them ( 50 in 223 and 62s in 243) but have not connected yet. i have not cronoed them yet but im loading them at min. charges for the powder called.

 

[derbyacresbob]

From what I have seen the 50 gr V G bullets did not expand very good at 223 velocities on ground squirrels. The 50 gr V G bullets may work decent on coyotes.

I think higher speed will help the 50 gr V G bullets expand.

I shoot the Barnes 55 gr MPG bullets out of my 1-8" twist 223 AI and my 22-250 with a 1-8" twist barrel for coyotes. When I could shoot lead bullets at coyotes I didn't like 50 gr bullets as much as I liked 55 gr bullets. I had a 1-8" twist Hart barrel put on a 22-250 just so I could shoot the Barnes 55 gr MPG bullet at coyotes. If I have to shoot crappy lead free bullets at coyotes I want to shoot heavy crappy bullets not light crappy bullets.

I have seen at least 100 coyotes get shot with the Barnes 62 gr Varmint Grenades out of 243 Winchesters and a 243 WSSM. They do a good job of killing coyotes.

The Hornady NTX 35 gr Lead Free bullets and the Nosler Lead Free 40 gr BT bullets work pretty good on ground squirrels.

If I could still legally use lead bullets on squirrels and coyotes I wouldn't be using any lead free bullets on them.

 

[1maxhunter]

I agree 100% this non lead thing is just dumb!
But i did get the test on the .243 win.62 gr. VG yesterday. Shot a coyote at about 100 yrds. yesterday. broad side shot right behind the shoulder. he spun twice and expired two feet from where he stood. Bullet went completely threw with about a 3 inch diameter exit hole. the load is 42gr. of IMR 4007ssc have not cronoed it yet but it is a sub MOA load. got a pound of that powder with a trade so its what i went with to burn it up.it seems to work well with my .243 .gun)gonna go out and 'test' it again this next weekend..

 

[17Fireball]

Vmax are great for varmints but splash in my experience. Soft points are deadly.

 

[benlow]

I have not shot a lot of Varmint Grenades, but I have killed a lot of coyotes with 55 grain V- max .223. I have also tracked and shot some twice. A lead soft point 55 grain bullet is what I ended up going too, for all distances and shot angles. I had more than one V-Max that did not penetrate.

+1 for the old soft point

 

[1maxhunter]

I do shoot V-maxs and realy like them But im in california and now cant shoot lead bullets. the Condors like to eat them..

 

[_RJ_]

Lead free Noslers take down yotes no problem. Even in my .204 they're just fine. I had to go back and see what caliber you're using. .223 & .243 just use the Barnes TSX