Upgrade M700 or custom order a Savage

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by IDbound, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. IDbound

    IDbound Well-Known Member

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    I would like to do long range shooting without getting wore out shooting my Remington 700 7RM. Currently I also have the older version of the HS Percision stock. Would like to either downsize to a 7RUSM, 284 Win. or a 6.5X284. I have the LA bolt. When I talk to gun builders they want to square the bolt and action for a nice sum of money before adding the barrel. By the time it would all be done, I could just go to the Savage custom shop and buy a new gun like a want for about the same money. Just not a custom barrel. Any thoughts? I would like to stop reading for hours on end and get this decision made so I can get something on order.
     
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  2. angus-5024

    angus-5024 Well-Known Member

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    though I dont owm a custom myself, if I was in your shoes I would upgrade your Rem 700. A blueprinted action with a custom barrel will almost always preform better than a factory. Not to say that factory guns dont shoot, customs are just nicer. you can have the rifle built to your specs, for the bullet you want to shoot with the barrel contour you want.. the list goes on and on. But that being said I am a one gun kinda guy (OK I have two, but still). i would rather have one really nice rifle than three mediocere rifles. take a look at the .280 Rem as well.
     

  3. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    If you follow any of my posts, I am a huge Savage fan. I think a Mod 12 Target Rifle is right up your alley. They make them in 6.5x284, 6BR, and now in 260.

    Savage Arms Firearms > 12 Bench Rest

    Savage Arms Firearms > 12 Long Range Precision

    Savage Arms Firearms > 12 F Class

    I think these rifles are going to prove exceptional. They have already won international competition with these same rifles and are factory produced. In fact a couple of years ago, they won a match that was factory rifle only. The Savage team had to get a certified letter stating that the rifle in question was exactly a factory rifle and that there is no custom shop. These rifles perform exceptionally well. The nice thing is that they have a 6oz to 1.5lb trigger totally adjustable by you.

    If you call the factory, they can set you up in one of these rifles in any caliber you want from what I understand. Because you shoot a 7RM, the straight 284 Win would be a good caliber to keep you practiced up for the 7RM. These are my suggestions. If you have any mechanical aptitude, you will be able to change the barrel to any caliber you want with aftermarket barrels should you desire. Here's my Savage I put together with a Mod 12 VLP w/DBM:

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    Tank
     
  4. IDbound

    IDbound Well-Known Member

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    Couple questions/comments. I forgot to mention that I am LH so that will limit some of my options from Savage. Tank, if that is a Savage stock, I don't think that is an option. Second question, what is "blueprinting" and what does it accomplish? Do Savage floating bolts etc. eliminate the squareness issue. I would rather have one good gun versus two, but honestly doubt that I will every be good enough shot to appreciate a super accurate gun. I would just like to achieve 3/4 inch groups at 100 yds. I have ARs in 223 and 6.8 that achieve this and would like to have a bolt action that does the same.
     
  5. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    It's not a Savage stock. It is a Bell&Carlson. The floating bolt head does illiminate the necessity of blue printing, truing, what ever you want to call it. They make some nice ordinary stocks, and most come with pillar bedding. This helps with accuracy and consistency.

    If you want one gun, then get your 700 trued and barreled in the caliber of your choice. Put an aftermarket recoil lug, and trigger. Have the action bedded in its current stock and you will have an accurate shooter. Here is a link to a thread that involved one of the smiths on this sight and provides a video of some of his processes to truing and action:

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/blueprinting-remingotn-action-video-mcr-67757/

    These video's should give you some understanding of blue printing or truing a Remmy action. Proper handloads or good factory ammo should produce well under an inch at 100yds. Just doing some trigger work to your factory trigger and making sure the barrel is free floated should do at least that much.

    Tank
     
  6. Dr. Vette

    Dr. Vette Well-Known Member

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    Put a muzzle brake on your 700 and get a removable cap that covers the threads to use if you wish when hunting. It will kick like a 223 or 243 most of the time, but you can revert to "normal" configuration any time.

    Far cheaper than a new barrel or a new rifle.

    Just a thought.
     
  7. IDbound

    IDbound Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the replies and links. I will check them out. As for simply putting a brake on my current barrel, I need to replace it anyway. It is suffering from pretty aggressive throat wear. Thus the original question, to true and rebarrel or just buy a new custom Savage. I need to call them tomorrow to see if a 284 Win. or 7RSUM are even options. I only know that the 6.5x284 norma is a for sure option as I called them already. Accu-stock and trigger, 26 inch barrel, long action for $905 to the dealer. If I send to Douglas I can get a new barrel installed for $500 but action is not trued.
     
  8. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    You could send it to Kevin Cram (the one in the video), and get the barrel done plus the action trued. Not sure of his price, but may be an option. Seem very competent.

    Tank
     
  9. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    I've found changing over to Savage has been a very good way to go if you like to shoot a lot and use barrels, you can order high quality pre-fit barrel and fit them yourself without any problems. Much more cost effective for the one gun kind of guy that like to shoot a lot.
     
  10. IDbound

    IDbound Well-Known Member

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    Looks like getting Hart to re-barrel and square up the action for $650 might be my best bet.
     
  11. liltank

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    Go for it. They have built a lot of guns. Good barrels to boot!

    Tank
     
  12. IDbound

    IDbound Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again for all the replies. I have got an email to the guy in the videos and into Hart to see how backed up they are. And I have not ruled out everything suggested about a Savage. I learned a lot this afternoon from everyone. Thanks.:D