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<blockquote data-quote="Bart B" data-source="post: 100130" data-attributes="member: 5302"><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p>I just dont see why the ARMY doesn't at least use a 30-06.</p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p></p><p>The main reason they don't is the accuracy attainable.</p><p></p><p>In the early 1960's when the .30-06 was the only cartridge used by all highpower rifle competitors in the USA for virtually all matches, the most accurate ones using the best handloads would shoot inside 6 inches at 600 yards and about 15 inches at 1000 yards. Al Hauser worked for Hart Rifle Barrels and made the most accurate tubes used and were favorites amongst the best shooters.</p><p></p><p>The .308 Win. was first allowed in highpower matches in 1963. And the first thing top-scoring competitors noticed was its better accuracy. Using the same barrels except for chambering reamer, the .308's were shooting inside 3 inches at 600 yards and under 10 inches at 1000 yards. Scores shot with the .308 had so many tie breaking issues the NRA reduced the target ring sizes in 1966 so the top scores would be more spread out. And by then the .30-06 was fading from the scene.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there were a few .30-06 rifles used by snipers in 'Nam. GSGT Carlos Hathcock used one (old Win. model 70) fed an excellent lot of M72 match ammo from Lake City Arsenal. I chatted with Carlos during the 1971 Interservice Matches while at a senior NCO club at the Quantico Marine Corps Base about his rifle. He said he used that old '06 'cause he liked it, knew the trigger feel and could easily make sight changes for different ranges. He also said the Marine Corps didn't have any rifles that were more accurate. He did say he would like to have one of the US Navy 7.62mm NATO M1 Garands as it would probably shoot better than his Winchester 70.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bart B, post: 100130, member: 5302"] [ QUOTE ] I just dont see why the ARMY doesn't at least use a 30-06. [/ QUOTE ] The main reason they don't is the accuracy attainable. In the early 1960's when the .30-06 was the only cartridge used by all highpower rifle competitors in the USA for virtually all matches, the most accurate ones using the best handloads would shoot inside 6 inches at 600 yards and about 15 inches at 1000 yards. Al Hauser worked for Hart Rifle Barrels and made the most accurate tubes used and were favorites amongst the best shooters. The .308 Win. was first allowed in highpower matches in 1963. And the first thing top-scoring competitors noticed was its better accuracy. Using the same barrels except for chambering reamer, the .308's were shooting inside 3 inches at 600 yards and under 10 inches at 1000 yards. Scores shot with the .308 had so many tie breaking issues the NRA reduced the target ring sizes in 1966 so the top scores would be more spread out. And by then the .30-06 was fading from the scene. Yes, there were a few .30-06 rifles used by snipers in 'Nam. GSGT Carlos Hathcock used one (old Win. model 70) fed an excellent lot of M72 match ammo from Lake City Arsenal. I chatted with Carlos during the 1971 Interservice Matches while at a senior NCO club at the Quantico Marine Corps Base about his rifle. He said he used that old '06 'cause he liked it, knew the trigger feel and could easily make sight changes for different ranges. He also said the Marine Corps didn't have any rifles that were more accurate. He did say he would like to have one of the US Navy 7.62mm NATO M1 Garands as it would probably shoot better than his Winchester 70. [/QUOTE]
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