Hey, I know this is more of a Long Range Hunting web site, but I wanted to post about these 17 HMR's we just picked up. My son and I ordered two Marlin 917-VSSC's and picked them up today. I gotta say, these things are a blast. We started with three different types of ammo and began several three shot groups. They shot .44, .56, .67, .75 etc. all at 100 yds. One of the manufacturers ammo was all well over one inch, but the other two were all sub MOA. These groups should improve on our next shoot. If anyone is thinking about buying one of these for practice or plinking, I highly recommend it!