Twins update

Discussion in 'Equipment Discussions' started by Guest, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Shot the twins today..
    moved away from the VVN 560 and tried H4831sc since the burn rate is nearly the same...

    shot the same load in each rifle...

  2. davewilson

    davewilson Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2004
    it looks like the barrel won't shoot no matter what you do,you otta think about rebarreling.i'll give ya 25$ for that barrel if you're just gonna throw it away.

  3. sewwhat89

    sewwhat89 Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2005
    What kind of velocities are you getting with your load? I am just curious.
  4. 7Rumloader

    7Rumloader Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2005
    Ric it looks as if they are indeed identical twins. Chris built a fine pair of rifles!!
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest


    They shoot as good as they look. Chris does it again! (no surprise) I gotta get a new rig...Why???? Cause Ric did /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    gotta be honest here... those are 4 shot groups.. the cold clean bore shot is somewhere in the mix... I was really hoping for the CCB shot to be outta the group because I thrive on frustraition!!!

    Velocity, it was real overcast yesterday so I didn't have the chrony set -up. I plan to in the future and I will give another update...
    I think the .284 cal ( especially the 160-175 class of bullets ) is largly over looked so I plan to really experiment with it. you see the 150's and 140's being used a bunch even the 168's now and again but no-one really has stretched the big 7's

    the barels on the rifles are crap... I really enjoy using a dozen or so patches just to get out the initial powder fowling. THese things are so bad that I only need 2 or 3 and then after running a brush down them I only need another 2 or 3 to have it clean. It really sucks cause I was hoping to use the barrel cleaning regiment as part of my daily work out.. I have to talk to Chris about this...
    The other thing is the way he built the rifles is actually quite boring and now I have no idea what I will do... I planned on being aggravated and frustraighted by spending unGodly amounts of money buying 6 or 7 types of powder and way more bullets than I would ever use to work up a load for these rifles.. and now after 2 attemps .. I am done...

    OH well I guess I'll order somthing different... I suppose if I have a yard sale on Sat someone might take them off my hands...
  7. TheCanuck

    TheCanuck Well-Known Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Yeah they really are no good, send em my way, ill even pay for shipping so you dont have to, for such filth. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

    How much did you pay for each?
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    ahhhh the money "?" e-mail me for price list...
  9. ricka0

    ricka0 Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2004
    [ QUOTE ]
    <font color="purple"> moved away from the VVN 560 and tried H4831sc since the burn rate is nearly the same...

    [/ QUOTE ] </font>
    Please tell me VVN 560 gives you higher velocity. I paid 8x as much as WC-872 just so I could burn out my factory barrels and have an excuse to send them to Kirby. Like you, I’m a demanding customer. When I pay the big bucks for a barrel burning powder I expect results.

    BTW, if the tests work, I'll have a few factory barrels that will satisfy all your demands /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
  10. ssandberg

    ssandberg Active Member

    Oct 23, 2003
    Ric, How much 4831 did you use and how far off the lands?
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    big bore...
    not sure on the velocity yet.. but the 4831 feels faster.. sharper kick anyway.

    I understand what you mean.. if you buy somthing thats gonna wreck your rifle at least wreck it with some enthusiasm!!! Not usre if VVN 560 really does or not but I have has such good luck with Hogdon powders that thats where my confidence is...

    the load in the groups is as follows

    H4831SC 64.5 grs 162 gr A-MAX seated to just touch the lands.

    I have tried seating a-maxs off .005 .010. 020 but they really like to be just touching or just a hair into.
  12. sniper2

    sniper2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 10, 2003
    What is the range?Good looking clover leaves.
  13. LWolken

    LWolken Well-Known Member

    Nov 30, 2004

    Looks great. Glad to see some photos of the groups. Tired of hearing about shooting rocks at ultra long range.

  14. Guest

    Guest Guest