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<blockquote data-quote="4xforfun" data-source="post: 746434" data-attributes="member: 9172"><p>Mike....again, you are 100% correct. We are truly on our own.</p><p> </p><p>100 % correct...there is more to a load than powder amount. </p><p> </p><p>100 % correct...most people stick with their origonal components and do limited tinkering.</p><p> </p><p>The OP wanted to try 168's first. I say a good choice....this LRH...If it were BR Central I would have questioned his choice. The op wanted to know if he should try more than one powder at a time or one at a time, wring it out , and move on. He wanted us to point him to the best powder choice(s) for his chosen caliber/bullet. Asked and answered and mostly agreed upon.</p><p> </p><p>You are correct, there is no way to tell him the exact combo to use. He stated that he knows that he needs to "test and play around with OAL". NOBODY can tell him what his gun likes but the gun itself. He is aware that it can take a huge effort and lots of experamenting with lots of components to wring out that ABSOLUTE best accuracy in any gun.....not just "powder amount". He stated how hard it was to tune his 30-06....which is now a hole in hole shooter. GOOD ON HIM!!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>And I can gaurantee one thing......H1000 and the 168 Berger WILL NOT give him the absolute best accuracy with that gun....well lets say that I am 99.5% sure.....My guess is that there will some mid weight, flat based target bullet that will shoot the absolute best with a little faster powder. But at what cost? How many combos will he need to try. This is the LRH fourm....how much of the "LR" in LRH is he gonna loose to get that absolute best grouping load. How about bullet performance..is that great grouping combo the best choice for (LR) hunting.</p><p> </p><p>Like I said, if it don't work out, move on...try a different bullet with the H1000...maybe a diff powder. No use flogging a dead horse by staying with the same components. My point is that there comes a time when "good enough" is ...well...good enough. We all know that it won't be the "absolute best". I say that for a medium to long range hunting gun, 1/2 to 3/4 moa is very acceptable. Do we all want that sub 1/4 moa setup?...Every freakin one of us do..with out a doubt. But at what cost, in time, in components, in bbl life, money...? I'd say that if he was a lunatic accuracy freak, like lots of us here are, he would be best served with a full on custom rig.</p><p> </p><p>I think that we are all on the same page. Where I may differ...right or wrong....is that he doesn't need the ABSOLTE BEST GROUPING combo....use the proper bullet for the job and let good enough be good enough.</p><p> </p><p>Am I wrong in my thinking?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4xforfun, post: 746434, member: 9172"] Mike....again, you are 100% correct. We are truly on our own. 100 % correct...there is more to a load than powder amount. 100 % correct...most people stick with their origonal components and do limited tinkering. The OP wanted to try 168's first. I say a good choice....this LRH...If it were BR Central I would have questioned his choice. The op wanted to know if he should try more than one powder at a time or one at a time, wring it out , and move on. He wanted us to point him to the best powder choice(s) for his chosen caliber/bullet. Asked and answered and mostly agreed upon. You are correct, there is no way to tell him the exact combo to use. He stated that he knows that he needs to "test and play around with OAL". NOBODY can tell him what his gun likes but the gun itself. He is aware that it can take a huge effort and lots of experamenting with lots of components to wring out that ABSOLUTE best accuracy in any gun.....not just "powder amount". He stated how hard it was to tune his 30-06....which is now a hole in hole shooter. GOOD ON HIM!!! :D And I can gaurantee one thing......H1000 and the 168 Berger WILL NOT give him the absolute best accuracy with that gun....well lets say that I am 99.5% sure.....My guess is that there will some mid weight, flat based target bullet that will shoot the absolute best with a little faster powder. But at what cost? How many combos will he need to try. This is the LRH fourm....how much of the "LR" in LRH is he gonna loose to get that absolute best grouping load. How about bullet performance..is that great grouping combo the best choice for (LR) hunting. Like I said, if it don't work out, move on...try a different bullet with the H1000...maybe a diff powder. No use flogging a dead horse by staying with the same components. My point is that there comes a time when "good enough" is ...well...good enough. We all know that it won't be the "absolute best". I say that for a medium to long range hunting gun, 1/2 to 3/4 moa is very acceptable. Do we all want that sub 1/4 moa setup?...Every freakin one of us do..with out a doubt. But at what cost, in time, in components, in bbl life, money...? I'd say that if he was a lunatic accuracy freak, like lots of us here are, he would be best served with a full on custom rig. I think that we are all on the same page. Where I may differ...right or wrong....is that he doesn't need the ABSOLTE BEST GROUPING combo....use the proper bullet for the job and let good enough be good enough. Am I wrong in my thinking? [/QUOTE]
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