Tubb final finish

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by grpolarbear, May 23, 2008.

  1. grpolarbear

    grpolarbear Active Member

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    Does anyone have any experience with this product/procedure.The barrel of my savage 110 has reamer feed marks and seems to foul quickly.Thank You for your opinions.GRBP
     
  2. royinidaho

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    I used a partial (didn't shoot all Tubbs bullets) through a new rem 338 barrel to smooth it out a bit.

    From this experience and the experience of others around here, I'd strongly consider the Tubbs Final Finish on any new Win/Savage/Rem barrel.

    Though I'd never use it on a new custom barrel........
     

  3. Mikecr

    Mikecr Well-Known Member

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    I use it for break-in of all barrels including custom.
    Reamer born edges form in any barrel, and that's what I smooth/settle out.

    FF will reduce copper fouling greatly in barrels bad for this. Unless used too much... Don't do this, or fouling will return due to polishing.
    At that point the barrel would have to be lapped to roughen it back up.
    Basically, too smooth is as bad or worse than too rough(for copper).

    Custom barrelmakers lap to a perfect finish for minimal copper. But 10 FF bullets doesn't hurt this(doesn't help either). And, the FF bullets do quickly break down edges left from chambering.

    Every now & then I load one or two FF bullets just to square up retreating throat a bit.
     
  4. joshua

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    I have used this system and it works real good but make sherr you get the barrel completly clean between every 5 shoot string. I did one barrel and didint lessons learned
     
  5. goodgrouper

    goodgrouper Well-Known Member

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    I have written extensive posts on this product. Try running a search for them.

    In short, it's fantastic stuff for rough barrels. I'm actually going to load some up for one of my old 6ppc barrels this week.
     
  6. grpolarbear

    grpolarbear Active Member

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    Many thanks

    My suspicions were that this would be helpful,but there are a lot of folks selling snake oil out there.I,ve decided to halt my load development until I can smooth up this bore some.It,s fouling up to the point where I think its affecting pressures and its a pain to clean,Takes too long to do it right in the field.I thank all of You for your wisdom and generosity with it.GRPB
     
  7. rocky_lange

    rocky_lange Well-Known Member

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    What about PuffLon? Anyone try that? Should do the same thing as Tubb's.

    FireLappingFiller
     
  8. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    I read some of the promotional literature and it sounds like magic to me. The explanation just seems too assuming and simplistic. But I'll change my mind if other's try it out and start to rant and rave.
     
  9. jwp475

    jwp475 Well-Known Member

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    Tubbs product works as advertised, can't say that about every product on the market. The short answer is I don't know about the product that you mentioned, but my feeling is why not use the Tubbs product since it has a great reputation for doing it's job perfectly?
     
  10. Nomosendero

    Nomosendero Well-Known Member

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    It has worked very well for me. I recently bought a M700VS in 308 & of course the bore is rough & is a copper factory. The M700 rifle, esp. in the Sendero "type" platform is one of my
    favorite factory rifles & it may be the luck of the draw for me, but they seem to foul alot even when they are shooters. In my mind FF is just part of the purchase with these rifles.
     
  11. 3006savage

    3006savage Well-Known Member

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    I just tried Tubbs Final Finish on my Savage 116 with acceptional results. I started with baseline groups with 2 different loads. Hornady light Magnums with 165 grain Interbonds and 165 grain Remington core lokts. T
    Before the Tubbs process the light mags grouped at 1 1/4" and velocity was 2947 fps. Core lokts grouped at 2 3/4" and registered 2812 FPS. I then cleaned the barrel and fired 5 each of the five different Tubbs compounds. I cleaned the rifle every 5 rounds. After the Tubbs bullets I cleaned the barrel and refired the Light mag and corelokt rounds with the following results.

    The Light mags grouped 7/8" inches and clocked a surprising 3018 FPS. The Core Lokt rounds grouped 1 1/8" and I could not get the velocities as my chrony errored out and I could not reset it because the range had just switched targets and it was getting dark. The velocities are from a 22" barrel and the velocities increased by 71 fps. It seemed to clean up alot easier after the last 6 rounds also.
     
  12. 3006savage

    3006savage Well-Known Member

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    Disregard the 3018 fps above the F1 chrony was set up wrong. I went back today and clocked 2798 with the corelokt and 2951 with the light magnums. The groups were right around 1" and cleaning is definately easier. I feel this system worked as advertised.
     
  13. guns_and_labs

    guns_and_labs Well-Known Member

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    I tried it on two rifles. On one, a Remington 700 STS, it made no difference whatsoever. On another, a Ruger 77, it improved the groups a bit and made it easier to clean.

    I imagine you get the same results with the old shoot-and-clean break in. The Tubbs system just seems faster.