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Trued/tuned Savage vs. Trued/tuned Rem 700
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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 1404212" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>have not kept up on what Savage is doing for the last couple years as I have little interest. Yet even less for anything with the name Remington stamped on it. My favorite hunting rifle is actually a junked M700 short action, that I rebuilt after thirty rounds down the tube. It's a rock solid .40" five shot rifle now. Good enough for what I want to do with it. BUT! It has a really tough bolt lift, and not exactly safe when letting the safety off. Always keep the latter in mind. I have a little Browning Lo-Wall that shoots sub 3/4" groups with just about anything (factory). I've also got an AR15 that shots low sixes right out of the box. Then there's the tale of the Remington 788's that all shot half inch groups right outta the box (talk about ugly)</p><p></p><p>Now I do own three Savage bolt guns. Two are the very old long actions and one is the newer short action. Two are single shot, and one was a magazine gun till I did some work on it. Two have the pinned rail on top, and the other is in limbo. Two have Rifle Basix triggers, while one has the factory varmint trigger. All are in the one pound range, and plenty good enough for anything I want. One rifle had so many rounds thru it that I lost the throat, and I simple did a barrel setback. Barrel finished out at 25.25" after I did some work on the muzzle. All three guns are pillar bedded, but with my pillars. Barrels are factory supplied (they all slugged very well), and I use the factory laminate varmint stocks (I like the shape of the front end), but have done some work on the palm swell on one. The shoulder length has been shortened to fit me, and give a better sight thru the scope. The worst of the three shoots .31" five shot groups, while the best is a very low .20" gun. All seem to like the exact same load by the way. I did make a hydralock arbor to face the nuts either in a lathe or grinder. Saw zero improvement. Barrel threads came very square from the factory, and were strait. I did lap the bolt seat on one with very little help (maybe a tad smoother). I have messed around with three or four recoil lugs and one that is very different. I now think that as long as the lug is parallel and in the .284" or thicker range your good to go. I make my recoil lugs out of ground 4150 steel plate. </p><p></p><p>I will (someday) rechamber one of the 112's into a some sort of a 6mm improved (forget Ackley). The Mod.12 sorta alternates between 22-250 and 6mm/250AI. I'll probably keep things that way. The third wants to be a 7.62x51 NM. The Remington will end up being a .222 Remington improved someday with a 1:10 twist barrel. Doesn't mean I dislike the Remington, but just not totally overjoyed with it.</p><p></p><p>My favorite Savages are 99's period! My favorite rifles are Hi-Walls period!</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 1404212, member: 25383"] have not kept up on what Savage is doing for the last couple years as I have little interest. Yet even less for anything with the name Remington stamped on it. My favorite hunting rifle is actually a junked M700 short action, that I rebuilt after thirty rounds down the tube. It's a rock solid .40" five shot rifle now. Good enough for what I want to do with it. BUT! It has a really tough bolt lift, and not exactly safe when letting the safety off. Always keep the latter in mind. I have a little Browning Lo-Wall that shoots sub 3/4" groups with just about anything (factory). I've also got an AR15 that shots low sixes right out of the box. Then there's the tale of the Remington 788's that all shot half inch groups right outta the box (talk about ugly) Now I do own three Savage bolt guns. Two are the very old long actions and one is the newer short action. Two are single shot, and one was a magazine gun till I did some work on it. Two have the pinned rail on top, and the other is in limbo. Two have Rifle Basix triggers, while one has the factory varmint trigger. All are in the one pound range, and plenty good enough for anything I want. One rifle had so many rounds thru it that I lost the throat, and I simple did a barrel setback. Barrel finished out at 25.25" after I did some work on the muzzle. All three guns are pillar bedded, but with my pillars. Barrels are factory supplied (they all slugged very well), and I use the factory laminate varmint stocks (I like the shape of the front end), but have done some work on the palm swell on one. The shoulder length has been shortened to fit me, and give a better sight thru the scope. The worst of the three shoots .31" five shot groups, while the best is a very low .20" gun. All seem to like the exact same load by the way. I did make a hydralock arbor to face the nuts either in a lathe or grinder. Saw zero improvement. Barrel threads came very square from the factory, and were strait. I did lap the bolt seat on one with very little help (maybe a tad smoother). I have messed around with three or four recoil lugs and one that is very different. I now think that as long as the lug is parallel and in the .284" or thicker range your good to go. I make my recoil lugs out of ground 4150 steel plate. I will (someday) rechamber one of the 112's into a some sort of a 6mm improved (forget Ackley). The Mod.12 sorta alternates between 22-250 and 6mm/250AI. I'll probably keep things that way. The third wants to be a 7.62x51 NM. The Remington will end up being a .222 Remington improved someday with a 1:10 twist barrel. Doesn't mean I dislike the Remington, but just not totally overjoyed with it. My favorite Savages are 99's period! My favorite rifles are Hi-Walls period! gary [/QUOTE]
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