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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 902344" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>being as your on the Obama Motors band wagon let me add a couple thoughts.</p><p> </p><p>* Certainly Ford didn't take a Government loan; or did they? The tax payer actually gave them several sets of tax credits that they didn't have to think about ever paying back. </p><p> </p><p>* that Ford you rave about doesn't meet Federal specs to qualify as a U.S. built truck. To be exact it doesn't come close! At one time less than 40% of a Ford anything was built in the N. America, and of that 40%, much of that was outsourced from the USA. Basically the only thing they did was assemble components they bought. It was so bad that Toyota mocked them in commercials! The Fed threatened to take the made in USA label from them, so they increased their content by taking back product lines from Asia. Ford found a loop hole in the content sheet, and simply called it N. American production (they at onetime claimed a 75% N. American content), but when you an investigation you soon learned they moved about 2/3rds of the Asian stuff to Latin America. On the otherhand G.M. calls N. American content as U.S. and Canada, and separates Mexican content (as it should be). But Ford is doing better. At one time about 37% was built by Ford, and the rest was who knows where. Now they are claiming about 67% N. American content. G.M. claims about 63% U.S. and Canada content. Looks great on paper anyway. The main reason you see Canadian content in all cars and trucks is due to the Canadian content laws, which is also illegal in the NAFTA treaty. </p><p> </p><p>* give Toyota credit for at least going beyond an assembly plant, and actually opening a couple feeder plants for it. Next problem is that with the exception of the blocks and heads, your looking at Asian content again (another loop hole) </p><p>glt</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 902344, member: 25383"] being as your on the Obama Motors band wagon let me add a couple thoughts. * Certainly Ford didn't take a Government loan; or did they? The tax payer actually gave them several sets of tax credits that they didn't have to think about ever paying back. * that Ford you rave about doesn't meet Federal specs to qualify as a U.S. built truck. To be exact it doesn't come close! At one time less than 40% of a Ford anything was built in the N. America, and of that 40%, much of that was outsourced from the USA. Basically the only thing they did was assemble components they bought. It was so bad that Toyota mocked them in commercials! The Fed threatened to take the made in USA label from them, so they increased their content by taking back product lines from Asia. Ford found a loop hole in the content sheet, and simply called it N. American production (they at onetime claimed a 75% N. American content), but when you an investigation you soon learned they moved about 2/3rds of the Asian stuff to Latin America. On the otherhand G.M. calls N. American content as U.S. and Canada, and separates Mexican content (as it should be). But Ford is doing better. At one time about 37% was built by Ford, and the rest was who knows where. Now they are claiming about 67% N. American content. G.M. claims about 63% U.S. and Canada content. Looks great on paper anyway. The main reason you see Canadian content in all cars and trucks is due to the Canadian content laws, which is also illegal in the NAFTA treaty. * give Toyota credit for at least going beyond an assembly plant, and actually opening a couple feeder plants for it. Next problem is that with the exception of the blocks and heads, your looking at Asian content again (another loop hole) glt [/QUOTE]
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