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trouble with bergers
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<blockquote data-quote="Unofficial Gun Addict (UGA)" data-source="post: 1016253" data-attributes="member: 81139"><p>Hmmm... What velocity are you running those bergers? That seems like a lot of bullet and (out of a 300wm), most likely a lot of speed for deer at the ranges you describe. My deer fell at 246 yards... 168gr at 2550 from the muzzle... And it was bang flop. Deer didn't even get to move an inch from where it stopped. .30 hole in, lung and far shoulder destroyed, with silver dollar sized exit. I couldn't be more impressed.</p><p></p><p>I'm wondering if at that range, the weight and speed of your bullet just pushed on through similar to an fmj, although I've heard that typically, the results with bergers at closer ranges is like a bomb going off and making a real mess with high speed impacts. Not sure... But confusing.</p><p></p><p>Man.... Hard to say without seeing the animals and trying to figure out what happened with bullet placement and the internal wound channel. If I was shooting deer-sized game at those distances... I'm not sure a 200+ gr bergers and 3000+ fps muzzle velocity would be what I'd be considering. Now if it was elk or moose... That would be different, but even then... That configuration is effective at many hundreds of yards beyond the range you are shooting. I'd think the 168s at 2500 would be more than sufficient.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Unofficial Gun Addict (UGA), post: 1016253, member: 81139"] Hmmm... What velocity are you running those bergers? That seems like a lot of bullet and (out of a 300wm), most likely a lot of speed for deer at the ranges you describe. My deer fell at 246 yards... 168gr at 2550 from the muzzle... And it was bang flop. Deer didn't even get to move an inch from where it stopped. .30 hole in, lung and far shoulder destroyed, with silver dollar sized exit. I couldn't be more impressed. I'm wondering if at that range, the weight and speed of your bullet just pushed on through similar to an fmj, although I've heard that typically, the results with bergers at closer ranges is like a bomb going off and making a real mess with high speed impacts. Not sure... But confusing. Man.... Hard to say without seeing the animals and trying to figure out what happened with bullet placement and the internal wound channel. If I was shooting deer-sized game at those distances... I'm not sure a 200+ gr bergers and 3000+ fps muzzle velocity would be what I'd be considering. Now if it was elk or moose... That would be different, but even then... That configuration is effective at many hundreds of yards beyond the range you are shooting. I'd think the 168s at 2500 would be more than sufficient. [/QUOTE]
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