TMR or mildot

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by lamiglas, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. lamiglas

    lamiglas Well-Known Member

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    alright guys, for a 338edge build, assuming it has to be a mark 4 scope.


    first: TMR or Mildot reticle and why?

    2nd: 6.5-20 or 4.5-14 and why?

    thanks in advance.
     
  2. sscoyote

    sscoyote Well-Known Member

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    Oh man, no question the TMR. .5 mil line stadia units, and .2 mil for the last mil. (allows for .02 mil. rangefinding accuracy interpolatively for excellent accuracy).
     

  3. JPRITT

    JPRITT Well-Known Member

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    definately TMR. I have in a 4.5X14 and love it. I like the 4.5 for walking and the 14 gives enough to reach out to 1000 pretty easly. Once you learn the TMR reticle you will see the mildot is obsolete. the TMR is much more precise and capable.
     
  4. gahlizard

    gahlizard Well-Known Member

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    tmr for sure!
    just got back from eastern montana and did some shooting out to 1302yrds (leica geovid) rifle is a nesika 300wm that shoots very well, i wasn't impressed with the tmr initially when doing groups on paper at 200 yards, BUT the open center cross hair is the best when you start stretching out the distance and a conventional center would cover up the target. we were shooting it at 20 power...i would say that 14 is adequate to 1000, but after that the extra magnification is very nice.
     
  5. Ernie

    Ernie SPONSOR

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    Ditto on the TMR-Much more precise reticle.
     
  6. Desert Fox

    Desert Fox Well-Known Member

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    I love it. I thought the MP-8 was the best... that is until I peered into the Leupy. View from 1332 yards away.

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  7. BHP9

    BHP9 Well-Known Member

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    I say TMR, because - if nothing else - the glass doesn't apear to be cluttered up.

    I have nothing against MilDot either.

    Because it's going on a long range rilfe, go 6.5-20 power.
     
  8. sscoyote

    sscoyote Well-Known Member

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    Both TMR and MD are designed to be rangefinding reticles primarily. The accuracy of interpolating (for rangefinding as well as zeroing) between stadia is about .1 of 1 mil (.1 mil) for the std. MD. For rangefinding with the TMR u get .1 of .2 mil at .02 mil accuracy (80 % better accuracy). The TMR also allows for .1 of .5 mil or .05 mil accuracy for downrange zeroing. The std. MD only allows for .1 of 1 mil once again (.1 mil) or 50 % more accurate.

    As far as i've seen the TMR is the finest, most accurate reticle system ever designed for the milliradian.
     
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  9. BHP9

    BHP9 Well-Known Member

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    You obviously have seen the S&B metric reticle. That the one I have.
     
  10. jwp475

    jwp475 Well-Known Member

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    How is it better than a NSX Mill line reticle, a S&B P--4 Fine reticule or any other made along thes same lines?

    The NSX Mill Dot reticule is circles that you can see through and I find it to be excellent as well.
     
  11. lamiglas

    lamiglas Well-Known Member

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    thank you all for the replies.
     
  12. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    IF the TMR reticle had 10 mils available under the intersection of the cross hairs like the MP-8 reticle, then it would be an outstanding reticle for me.

    I use the reticle for holdovers and holdunders and 5 mils for holdovers is insufficient for 1000 yd holdovers. If you turn turrets then I can see that it would be a sweet reticle.
     
  13. sscoyote

    sscoyote Well-Known Member

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    Just looked at the P-4 S&B reticle and it also has .2 mil line stadia so it would have the same rangefinding accuracy. But the NXS MLR reticle will not be as accurate since the finest stadia to stadia gap is .5 mil. This provides for .05 mil interpolative accuracy (.1 of a subtension unit is about as accurate as i've seen anyone guess with any level of repeatability), whereas the TMR has .2 mil allowing for .02 mil accuracy (again .1 subtension unit).
     
  14. sscoyote

    sscoyote Well-Known Member

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    u're right--i had not. I do like that they put the .2 mil stadia in only 3 of the quadrants--smart.