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TEST 1, Gen 2 Berger 300 gr Hybrid VLD
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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Stecker" data-source="post: 505495" data-attributes="member: 8908"><p><strong>Re: Test 2 Accuracy, Gen 2 Berger 300 gr Hybrid VLD</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>First, let me relay how pleased I am that Kirby is putting these bullets through the ringer. As I've said, our goal was to make a bullet strong enough to handle the most abusive 338 Lapua Mag. The fact that they are working in a 338 Allen Magnum is far beyond our expectations.</p><p> </p><p>I'll add for clarity that the bullet Kirby is testing is the Hybrid not the VLD (the Hybrid is the only 338 cal made by Berger so far). This distinction is only important because we do have plans to make a true VLD. The Hybrid is designed to be less sensitive to seating depth changes than the VLD but a true 338 cal VLD will have a higher BC (but will need more effort to be tuned). </p><p> </p><p>Given Kirby's results in both tests it appears that the Hybrid design is living up to its expectations. I'm sure there is more to come on that point and will refresh everyone following all the 300 gr Gen 2 testing that Shawn Carlock found his best results after tinkering with seating depth a bit.</p><p> </p><p>Since Kirby brought it up I will relay our position on bonded bullets. We have tested several bonding options and was not able to produce good precision which is a requirement with Bergers. We did this testing some years ago so it is reasonable for us to revisit bonding if for no other reason than to confirm that nothing has changed.</p><p> </p><p>I will say that a bonded hunting bullet is on our "to do" list and it has been for some time. As long as bonded bullets (we make) are not capable of 1/4 MOA in an equally capable rifle (we'd probably accept consistently better than 1/2 MOA) Berger won't make them. That is not because we don't see the value in bonding but because with every bullet our highest priority is precision.</p><p> </p><p>I am looking forward to learning more from Kirby about this bullet. I'll add that the copper we need to make our next run that will cover all backorders and put the 338 cal on the shelf permanently has arrived. I expect that these bullet will be readily available to everyone by June (shipping will start in May).</p><p> </p><p>Regards,</p><p>Eric</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Stecker, post: 505495, member: 8908"] [b]Re: Test 2 Accuracy, Gen 2 Berger 300 gr Hybrid VLD[/b] First, let me relay how pleased I am that Kirby is putting these bullets through the ringer. As I've said, our goal was to make a bullet strong enough to handle the most abusive 338 Lapua Mag. The fact that they are working in a 338 Allen Magnum is far beyond our expectations. I'll add for clarity that the bullet Kirby is testing is the Hybrid not the VLD (the Hybrid is the only 338 cal made by Berger so far). This distinction is only important because we do have plans to make a true VLD. The Hybrid is designed to be less sensitive to seating depth changes than the VLD but a true 338 cal VLD will have a higher BC (but will need more effort to be tuned). Given Kirby's results in both tests it appears that the Hybrid design is living up to its expectations. I'm sure there is more to come on that point and will refresh everyone following all the 300 gr Gen 2 testing that Shawn Carlock found his best results after tinkering with seating depth a bit. Since Kirby brought it up I will relay our position on bonded bullets. We have tested several bonding options and was not able to produce good precision which is a requirement with Bergers. We did this testing some years ago so it is reasonable for us to revisit bonding if for no other reason than to confirm that nothing has changed. I will say that a bonded hunting bullet is on our "to do" list and it has been for some time. As long as bonded bullets (we make) are not capable of 1/4 MOA in an equally capable rifle (we'd probably accept consistently better than 1/2 MOA) Berger won't make them. That is not because we don't see the value in bonding but because with every bullet our highest priority is precision. I am looking forward to learning more from Kirby about this bullet. I'll add that the copper we need to make our next run that will cover all backorders and put the 338 cal on the shelf permanently has arrived. I expect that these bullet will be readily available to everyone by June (shipping will start in May). Regards, Eric [/QUOTE]
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