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<blockquote data-quote="Brent" data-source="post: 21197" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Dave, I understand and agree completely. </p><p>I was just trying to point out that at 640 yds a average bullet would have done just fine because expansion was not as violent.</p><p></p><p>I too carry the premium bullets in the timber etc. when a grizz may pop out. The reason I use the X bullet longrange is the BC and the group size of .7 moa max.</p><p></p><p> My sons .308win won't shoot the X bullet under 1.7 moa so he just uses it in the timber and switches to the 165gn Gameking SPBT at LR that goes under .5 moa with factory loads at 2600fps out of a 20" tube. </p><p></p><p>His first moose was a double lung shot at 200yds and a complete pass through with the 165gn Gameking, It measured 59.5" and the body was enormous.</p><p></p><p>A pass through shot leaves one more blood trail and twice I've needed that. Both times the animal was less than 80yds away, but one bush can hide an animal for a long time.</p><p></p><p>Just another example of bullet construction, my 416wby at 10 feet will push a 400gn Barnes X 16-20" in silty sand, but the 400gn A-frame only 4-6" and it is literaly smoking for 10 seconds afterward. Both are .800-.900" in dia. and weigh 85% or more. The A-frame just expands faster at 2650fps or any speed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brent, post: 21197, member: 99"] Dave, I understand and agree completely. I was just trying to point out that at 640 yds a average bullet would have done just fine because expansion was not as violent. I too carry the premium bullets in the timber etc. when a grizz may pop out. The reason I use the X bullet longrange is the BC and the group size of .7 moa max. My sons .308win won't shoot the X bullet under 1.7 moa so he just uses it in the timber and switches to the 165gn Gameking SPBT at LR that goes under .5 moa with factory loads at 2600fps out of a 20" tube. His first moose was a double lung shot at 200yds and a complete pass through with the 165gn Gameking, It measured 59.5" and the body was enormous. A pass through shot leaves one more blood trail and twice I've needed that. Both times the animal was less than 80yds away, but one bush can hide an animal for a long time. Just another example of bullet construction, my 416wby at 10 feet will push a 400gn Barnes X 16-20" in silty sand, but the 400gn A-frame only 4-6" and it is literaly smoking for 10 seconds afterward. Both are .800-.900" in dia. and weigh 85% or more. The A-frame just expands faster at 2650fps or any speed. [/QUOTE]
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