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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 30500" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>I am not sure if I understand what we are trying to disscuss here, but my thinking on the matter is use components for the task at hand.</p><p></p><p>If you want to kill moose at 200 yards and no further, the natives up here do it 243's and 308's A 30-06 is a BIG rifle to them.</p><p></p><p>If you want to kill moose at 500 yards, its time to go bigger, whether you use match bullets or "X" bullets.</p><p></p><p>If your hunting high mountain sheep at 800 yards, its time to use the most accurate load at hand, probably a 6mm IMP or a 308 or I even know of a ram killed at 960 yards w/a 6.5-284 with MK's It doesent matter what bullet, just as long as its accurate. Sheep are thin skinned light boned animals with the desire to lay down after ypu hit em.</p><p></p><p>If one were going to limit his shots to 300 yards or less, there would be no need to use match bullets on anything. When we step up the distance, then we need to plan accordingly.</p><p></p><p>One theory of mine is to use a frangible bullet on deer sized critters out to 800 yards fired from the 308. You dont need rock solid bullets for deer, antelope or sheep and if I can get something to expand that far, I would greatly increase my odds for succes. I dont need an exit hole. The same combo would not serve the same purpose on elk or moose at 800 yards. Now we need a 300 with 190's minimum. Trust me, on those heavy dense animals, it will expand a match bullet on impact and most likley exit even at 800 yards.</p><p></p><p>This is what a low velocity frangible bullet does to game. The bedded sheep pictured here didnt move after he was shot, its not a blood trail, its the bullets path. You can see one arrow in the pic that shows my position, the other arrow shows the path of the bullet.</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://www.hunt101.com/img/088262.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>[ 01-11-2004: Message edited by: meichele ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 30500, member: 1007"] I am not sure if I understand what we are trying to disscuss here, but my thinking on the matter is use components for the task at hand. If you want to kill moose at 200 yards and no further, the natives up here do it 243's and 308's A 30-06 is a BIG rifle to them. If you want to kill moose at 500 yards, its time to go bigger, whether you use match bullets or "X" bullets. If your hunting high mountain sheep at 800 yards, its time to use the most accurate load at hand, probably a 6mm IMP or a 308 or I even know of a ram killed at 960 yards w/a 6.5-284 with MK's It doesent matter what bullet, just as long as its accurate. Sheep are thin skinned light boned animals with the desire to lay down after ypu hit em. If one were going to limit his shots to 300 yards or less, there would be no need to use match bullets on anything. When we step up the distance, then we need to plan accordingly. One theory of mine is to use a frangible bullet on deer sized critters out to 800 yards fired from the 308. You dont need rock solid bullets for deer, antelope or sheep and if I can get something to expand that far, I would greatly increase my odds for succes. I dont need an exit hole. The same combo would not serve the same purpose on elk or moose at 800 yards. Now we need a 300 with 190's minimum. Trust me, on those heavy dense animals, it will expand a match bullet on impact and most likley exit even at 800 yards. This is what a low velocity frangible bullet does to game. The bedded sheep pictured here didnt move after he was shot, its not a blood trail, its the bullets path. You can see one arrow in the pic that shows my position, the other arrow shows the path of the bullet. [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/088262.jpg[/img] [ 01-11-2004: Message edited by: meichele ] [/QUOTE]
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