Tall Turret Scope,,advice

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by magedon44, Feb 13, 2012.

  1. magedon44

    magedon44 Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys im new to the long range world and in the process of learning everything i can. I decided i dont want a scope with the CDS dial system because i want to learn the drop charts and MOA and everything else that goes into shooting and dont want to be stuck to one load from my gun and have to pay for new turret.

    My problem is, i cant seem to find a scope with tall turrets that have tall turret caps on them to protect them from turning while being put in and out of a scabbert on a horse or hiking and rubbing on my coat. I have seen pics of them from you guys but i cant find them on web sites.

    I want a scope in the 4.5- 14 power range with 1/4 MOA adjustments, and id spend up to 600 ish on the scope. It makes me nervous that my tall turrets may rotate and id loose my zero while hiking, also i worry about snow and ice jamming the turrets from turning, so in my opinion i would think a capped protected turret would be best?????? and advice ? thanks fellas!
     
  2. SBruce

    SBruce Well-Known Member

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    A few that I am aware of are the Leupolds with "target" knobs, Leupolds VX-7's, Huskemaw's ajustments have covers, and some of the Nikons do too. There's probably others that I am not aware of. Without covers, it helps to have a zero stop and/or record our "zero" revolution marks on the gun somewhere, just in case this happens.

    Good question, that's always been a concern of mine also, and I've personally seen the knobs get turned accidentally a few different times now by dragging them out of a scabbard or across the seat of a pickup.
     

  3. Scot E

    Scot E Well-Known Member

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    A couple thoughts. I use a scabbard and don't like the tall target turrets at all. You can get the features of a target turret, ie MOA and click marks on the turrets, turret revolution indicators, and and easy to turn turrets, without going to the tall turrets. There are low target turrets or semi target turrets that may fit your situation better. Below are a few that you may want to look at. Some of these have multiple options with turrets and caps so look at all of them.

    With the new scopes out that have uncapped turrets, most have sealed turrets and are pretty stiff to turn which makes moving them by accident more difficult. Also many offer ways to keep track of what revolution your turret is on so it is easy to check it each time you take it out of the scabbard. I only mention this because it may open up the number of options you have to look at.

    These are all good scopes IMO as far as glass, durability, turret repeatability, etc. I have personally used everything but the viper. But it has a ton of reviews online if you need info.

    Vortex Viper
    Sightron Big Sky
    Nikon Monarch
    Weaver V series


    HTH,


    Scot E.
     
  4. sp6x6

    sp6x6 Well-Known Member

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    The Weaver has a locking turret, and Leupold has one too, on a M5, 34 TUBE
     
  5. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    I have a VX4 Leupy, 6.5-20x50 (fine duplex) With tall capped turrets but it's an AO so the parallelax is front mounted. I use for benchrest target comp. I believe it comes in BC and TMR but I could be mistaken It's a 1" tube, not 30mm

    Nice and clear with excellent low light capability. The drawback is the front parallax adjustment but not with benchrest. I've used it to hunt with without major discomfort on my part.

    Street price is below 700 bucks.
     
  6. cummins cowboy

    cummins cowboy Well-Known Member

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    leupolds target turrets are about as tall as I can imagine going and are still covered, check out graybull's scope those are the target turrets and are covered when you want them to be. it sounds like you are worried about bumpping them, I still think the CDS is a great idea so many people say it means you are stuck to one load, but everyone seems to forget that all the factors everyone talks about only come into play beyond 600 yards. my turret is set for a load that is 70fps faster that what my current load shoots. one of these days I will change out the turret cap, but I just add a click at 600 yards, 2 clicks at 800, and 4 clicks when I get to 1000 yards.

    BDC turrets are not rocket science and they work regardless of conditions its easy to add or take away clicks from your baseline. thats how the marines unertl scopes worked that were used up until recently. They had a turret that actually only adjusted to the ranges they wanted to shoot, be it 600, 800, etc, then a veneer adjustment allowed deviation from it 1/2 moa at a time, adding clicks or taking them away depending on conditions is the same thing.
     
  7. mtnwrunner

    mtnwrunner Well-Known Member

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    magedon44----i am in the same boat as you. Been looking and researching for a couple of months now about buying a scope with turrets but it is covered. I used a Zeiss Conquest last year with Kenton turrets and it is a great setup BUT I constantly had to check the turrets and they did move----ALOT during the day.
    So, I think that I will most likely go with a leupold with their target turret setup and have Kenton make the ballistic turret for them.

    Randy
     
  8. Hunter12

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    I was looking for the samething as you are. I ended up going with vortex viper hs 4x16 model. It is a lower turret and caped. I like the lower caped turret for hunting. Not as big to get in the way. Very good optics and the turret moves perfect. You can us the moa or get a custom turret made. The vortex warrenty is the best in the biz. For the money I don't think you can bet this scope.
     
  9. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    Vortex's warranty is the same as Leupold, Nightforce, Swaro, Zeiss, S&B and I believe Huskemaw, those I'm familiar with. Warranted for as long as own the optic against failure and transferrable to the next owner if there is one...

    I had a personal experience with Leupold, the scope would not hold zero. I returned it to Leupold and Stevens, the sent me a newer model and paid my shipping out...and back on a 7 day turnaround, plus calling them, you get to talk to someone without a heavy arabic accent.......:D (try that with your credit card company sometime....)

    I just bought a Vortex so I compared warranty. It's the same. I believe all manufacturers of good optics stand behing their products.
     
  10. Hunter12

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    Sorry you are right I should have been more specific. One of the best. I also have had personal experiences with well known product and its never been fast or easy. I have found out that just cause its on the warranty card doesn't mean they will do it fast and easy.

    My good friend is in the gun and optic biz and he has told me that Vortex gives him the least amount of flack when dealing with warranty. And he is a Swaro fan.
     
  11. phillip martin

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    I have a Nikon Monarch 4-16 on my 270, about $500. Purchased the turrets and high caps from Nikon if I remember right they were $45.00 plus shipping. Had it 3 years on one of my fav M700s and had no trouble with zero to date.

    Phillp