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<blockquote data-quote="jon.henry755" data-source="post: 698133" data-attributes="member: 29115"><p>Hi NDPronghorn,</p><p>I was away in Europe for about three weeks so I'm slowly catching up on communications that I missed.</p><p></p><p>I'm a bit confused by your questions regarding spine measurements. Let me explain why. The arrows spine measurement is always represented by a decimal value. In the case of the PSE TAC15 Arrows all are in the .1XX classification, therefore your spine meter should br providing readings that are as an example .162 - .170 or .176 - .184. These would be typical examples of readings within two different spine ranges taken on a series of TAC arrow shafts. Rarely are the spine readings below .140 or greater than .190, but it's not impossible.</p><p></p><p>I always keep all arrow shafts within a given group that I'm building as close as possible so let me give you an actual example of a set that I have underway currently. Here are the actual deflection ranges for each shaft: </p><p></p><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>1 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(68 – 78)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>78</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.5</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>2 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(69 – 78)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>78</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.2</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>3 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(70 – 78)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>78</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>326.2</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>4 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(71 – 78)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>78</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>327.5</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>5 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(70 – 77)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>77</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>327.5</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>6 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(70 – 77)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>77</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.0</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>7 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(71 – 77)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>77</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.2</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>8 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(70 – 79)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>79</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.6</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>9 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(71 – 79)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>79</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.5</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>10 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(69 – 81)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>81</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.6</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>11 </strong></div> <div style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>(69 – 82)</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>82</strong></div> </div><p> <div style="text-align: center"><div style="text-align: center"><strong>328.4</strong></div> </div><p> </p><p>So, I hope you now get the idea of what the numbers look like and which number represents the stiff side of the arrow shaft. Keep in mind that the deflection range is what controls the oscillation timing for each shaft, so as long as the deflection range is very similar, then the timing will be consistent and the same for each arrow. Optimally, it would be nice if the tolerances within each shaft were tighter, but the fact is the PSE TAC15 Arrow shafts are not a very high quality shaft as you might get from other manufacturers. That's also why the shaft straightness factor is only .003 as opposed to the typical .001 straightness produced by makers like the Easton Gold Tips and of coarse the Firenock Aerobolt series of arrows. </p><p></p><p>Until recently nobody else in the industry was producing a shaft in the .150 range, so PSE had the corner market and didn't need to worry about the quality aspect of their shafts. Now that there's a new maker who's blown away the quality of the arrow and produced a shaft that's light years ahead of PSE's arrows, it's likely that PSE will loose a great deal of business in the arrow market.</p><p></p><p>Notice the weight column on my table. This is because I always maintain arrows weight through each step of the build process. I match the weight of my heaviest shaft by first applying the smallest amount of glue possible when installing my nock collars and nock, then i weigh the final arrow and write down this weight. All other arrows can have more glue added to either the nock collar or the inside of the nock until the weight of the heavier shaft is attained. If needed I will use a slow set epoxy glue and pull the nock back out as many times as necessary to either add or remove tiny amounts of glue until I'm within .01 to .03 grains of the exact weight of the heaviest shaft. When finished with each arrow it's always within + or - .02 grains of all other arrows in the group.</p><p></p><p>It's a slow process, but it's the only way to achieve that level of perfection.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps answer your questions.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p></p><p>Jon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jon.henry755, post: 698133, member: 29115"] Hi NDPronghorn, I was away in Europe for about three weeks so I'm slowly catching up on communications that I missed. I'm a bit confused by your questions regarding spine measurements. Let me explain why. The arrows spine measurement is always represented by a decimal value. In the case of the PSE TAC15 Arrows all are in the .1XX classification, therefore your spine meter should br providing readings that are as an example .162 - .170 or .176 - .184. These would be typical examples of readings within two different spine ranges taken on a series of TAC arrow shafts. Rarely are the spine readings below .140 or greater than .190, but it's not impossible. I always keep all arrow shafts within a given group that I'm building as close as possible so let me give you an actual example of a set that I have underway currently. Here are the actual deflection ranges for each shaft: [CENTER][CENTER][B]1 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](68 – 78)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]78[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.5[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]2 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](69 – 78)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]78[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.2[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]3 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](70 – 78)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]78[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]326.2[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]4 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](71 – 78)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]78[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]327.5[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]5 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](70 – 77)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]77[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]327.5[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]6 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](70 – 77)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]77[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.0[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]7 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](71 – 77)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]77[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.2[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]8 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](70 – 79)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]79[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.6[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]9 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](71 – 79)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]79[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.5[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]10 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](69 – 81)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]81[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.6[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]11 [/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B](69 – 82)[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]82[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][B]328.4[/B][/CENTER][/CENTER] So, I hope you now get the idea of what the numbers look like and which number represents the stiff side of the arrow shaft. Keep in mind that the deflection range is what controls the oscillation timing for each shaft, so as long as the deflection range is very similar, then the timing will be consistent and the same for each arrow. Optimally, it would be nice if the tolerances within each shaft were tighter, but the fact is the PSE TAC15 Arrow shafts are not a very high quality shaft as you might get from other manufacturers. That's also why the shaft straightness factor is only .003 as opposed to the typical .001 straightness produced by makers like the Easton Gold Tips and of coarse the Firenock Aerobolt series of arrows. Until recently nobody else in the industry was producing a shaft in the .150 range, so PSE had the corner market and didn't need to worry about the quality aspect of their shafts. Now that there's a new maker who's blown away the quality of the arrow and produced a shaft that's light years ahead of PSE's arrows, it's likely that PSE will loose a great deal of business in the arrow market. Notice the weight column on my table. This is because I always maintain arrows weight through each step of the build process. I match the weight of my heaviest shaft by first applying the smallest amount of glue possible when installing my nock collars and nock, then i weigh the final arrow and write down this weight. All other arrows can have more glue added to either the nock collar or the inside of the nock until the weight of the heavier shaft is attained. If needed I will use a slow set epoxy glue and pull the nock back out as many times as necessary to either add or remove tiny amounts of glue until I'm within .01 to .03 grains of the exact weight of the heaviest shaft. When finished with each arrow it's always within + or - .02 grains of all other arrows in the group. It's a slow process, but it's the only way to achieve that level of perfection. Hope this helps answer your questions. Regards, Jon [/QUOTE]
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