Tac 15 Groups

Discussion in 'PSE TAC 15/15i Crossbow Hunting Forum' started by Kytopgun, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. Kytopgun

    Kytopgun Member

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    Hey guys this thing seems to good to be true. Off bench with sand bags
    what kind of groups 25 and 50 Yards dime quarter half dollar I would like to know we have crossbow matches no one has one YET lightbulb
     
  2. J E Custom

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    Lets put it this way.

    If you try to shoot groups with the Tac 15 at anything under 50 yards you will tear up your arrows
    At 20 or 30 you will definitely tear them up (Break nocks and rip the fletching of)

    I shot at 5 different 1/2" target dots at 30 yards with 5 different arrows and hit all of them inside the
    dot and had I used the same dot I would have ruined at least 4 of them.

    It is uncanny how well the Tac 15 shoots and how consistant it is also.

    I have not gone past 80 yards yet but soon. I am trying to figure out how far I can hunt big game
    with it. (Energy). I know it will hit beyond 100 yards but with how much energy.

    Don't try to shoot groups unless you have plenty of money for arrows.

    J E CUSTOM
     

  3. Kytopgun

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    Thanks as champion archer who pushed my bow to extreme pounds I paid the price with my back. At 53 looks like Mr pse will be in my hands this fall in a new role thanks I cant wait to shoot the tac 15 I met the owner this fall in Tucson Mr Pete is a class act and a archery legend
     
  4. Andy Backus

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    This is Len

    Kentucky, welcome!

    J.E. -- having had pass throughs at 72 and 86 yards last year, I expect pass through at 100 yards this year if in the normal kill zone.

    My 72 yard kill was with the deer quartering away. Arrow entered the left hip bone with a tremendous cracking sound. So loud it was kind of like taking a broom handle in both hands and swinging at a small 6 inch tree with it as hard as you could. Complete pass through. gun)
     
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  5. J E Custom

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    Sounds good !!!!

    I found over the years that the pass through is the only way to guarantee a found animal and a
    easy tracking job.

    I once tried the largest broad heads on my compound and had to track the dear and Elk for
    some time before finding them. and switched back to the 1 1/4 dia. heads and never lost a
    one after that.

    After shooting for over 30 years I had worked up to 96 pounds on my compound and 800 grain
    arrows. Pass throughs were predictable.

    I hunted with a crossbow a few times but didn't like the Short bolts 14'' to 18'' because of weight
    and max efective distance on game.

    The Tac 15 has eliminated all of the shortcomings of the crossbow as far as I am concerned
    but like everything else there is a limit of what it can do and I'm glad that the performance is
    there at greater distances, to me that means that at reasonable distances (60 or 70 yards)
    it will do well on large game.

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  6. Len Backus

    Len Backus Administrator Staff Member

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    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:!!!!
     
  7. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Len. but it is true.

    I shot between 500 to 700 arrows a week.

    I Shot for bear archery (clinic specialist) for almost 5 years and bear had to make me a special
    bow. It would go to 87 pounds. Then I found that PSE made a composite limb that with a few mods
    (Ball bearing axles) and special cams would exceed 100 pounds draw weight.

    I had planed to go to Africa and they required 100 pounds and 1000 grain arrows for the big 5.

    There were several in our group that hunted with 85+ pounds and one that had a re curve built
    by Viking archery that exceeded 80 pounds @ 30" draw.

    One year I won the Texas state broad head championship using a PSE Vector set At 92 pounds
    and had to have a match official and the maker of the targets (Stanly Hip) accompany me because
    I was shooting through every target.

    I know that is more than nessary. but it did have its advantages.

    This was before graphite arrows and high speed bows were available and weight was the only
    way to get speed. Light weight arrows did not have enough spine for the longer draw lengths
    32+" and the low percentage let off of the bows of that time (20 to 30% was max).

    At 70 years of age I can still comfortably hunt with 86 pounds of draw weight Even with a bad shoulder.

    Until the TAC 15 came out there wasn't a cross bow that could match the energy and distance
    of the heavy compound bow, plus only the handicap could use cross bows for game.

    It's kind of like when you used to hear of someone making a 1000+ yard shot on game no
    one believed it now it has become commonplace because of technology and quality of
    components.

    I normally don't boast about my accomplishments but felt that you needed to know that it is/was
    not only possible but lots of archers shot heavy bow weights. and many that I knew shot as much or
    more than I did. In fact there was a long bow that was made to test the archers strength that
    was brought to many champion ship shoots to wager on. A shaft was knocked and drawn to see how
    far you could draw it and the longest draw won half the pot(The other half was donated to charity)
    I came close but never won.

    Come see me and I will be happy to show you my equipment and let you try your hand with it.

    J E CUSTOM
     
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  8. Kytopgun

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    Wow JE you are the only guy past 60 that could shoot that poundage . You should do promos for any and al bow mfg. my hats off to you. That would have to be in 1% of world or 1 person in world
    udaman
     
  9. Len Backus

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    J.E.

    That's amazing and I'm glad you shared it with all of us. I look forward to stories of your TAC 15 hunts this fall.
     
  10. J E Custom

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    Thanks .

    But not realy. My friend that shot the re curve at over 80 pounds is still at it and he is 64.

    I am a fairly large guy at 6'5'' and 290 pounds and still very active in all things that I like.

    When I started bow hunting ,like everyone else I started with a Jennings Model T set on 60
    pounds and worked up over the next 30+ years.

    So If a person shoots a lot and continually adds a couple of pounds each season he will get
    there if he wants to.

    Like I said , With all of the improvments in archery equipment there is realy no need to
    go to that high of a draw weight but when I started the Allen compound bow (The very first
    compound to be built)had just came out.

    So I grew up with the compound bows and saw many changes. My favorite bow still has
    wheels (In lieu of cams) and has 30% break over.

    Some of the old legends (Like Howard hill) could draw in excess of 125 pounds because they
    shot long bows and re curves that exceeded 75 pounds at full draw and the compounds with
    there 30+% break over was easy for them.

    For Example: if you can hold a long bow at full draw that is 70 pounds then a compound with
    30 % break over can be set at 100 pounds and still be managed because the hold weight will
    be somewhere around 70 pounds.

    Bow hunting was and still is my favorite sport and will be as long as I can draw a bow or
    a breath.

    As you can tell I love to talk archery.

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  11. Len Backus

    Len Backus Administrator Staff Member

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    That means at 6-0 and 190 that I am fairly small. :cool:
     
  12. Kytopgun

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    J E I miss the compound days last year i picked up think was Q5 shot for three days then paid huge price with my back. I am glad that people like you and Len love the sport so much to help others. I did not bow hunt for 10 years worried my buddies would rag me about the crossbow. I am like a kid at xmas waiting for are deer seaon. I hope you have a great one
     
  13. J E Custom

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    If you don't shoot all year round it can be hard on you.

    If I laid off for a month or two I started by backing off 10 or 15 pounds and shooting that weight
    until comfortable and then started adding weight until my pins were zeroed.(I never changed
    them if I didn't have to).

    The reason I bought the TAC 15 was an injury to my shoulder.I Didn't know if I could hunt with a
    bow any more and the TAC 15 was the first crossbow that looked like it could do the job in my
    opinion.

    Now I'm back on the road and up to 83 pounds on my compound, but I still can't shoot more than
    50 or 60 arrows at a time.

    I am looking forward to trying out the TAC 15 on game and in the event that i cant fully recover
    It will be my fall back bow.

    I am going to try The TAC 15 out on hogs first And depending on how well it does try deer next.

    You have a good one.

    J E CUSTOM